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7dominator wrote:

Further......

" It is meant to be complementary to the official club site and not competition, in fact we encourage all Carlton supporters to visit the official site regularly as it provides much needed funds for the club. "

Has the Club been involved in this and are they comfortable with it?

My concern at the time of the TBV break-up was that Clubs were vulnerable to opportunists ahead of the renewal of Internet site..

Comments would be appreciated....cheers

I have not had any formal talks to the club about this particular website. I was going to have a chat to the communications guys about it at our next meeting. At the moment the site is basically a blank canvas and will take some time to fill. If CFC communications want me to change any aspect of the site I will change it, if they want me to shut it down I will shut it down. I do not see the communications department having any problems with the website, and if they do they will let me know about it.

I am aware of the issues surrounding not being a competitor to the CFC site, which is why I mention it on the title page in the sentence you quote.

The intention of the site on my part is to build up a detailed history of the CFC. If you have a look at the history section on the CFC site it is pretty sparse on detail. I am hoping we can provide for the club the best online history of any of the AFL clubs. In the future I was hoping that the website could be donated to the club so they could use the database to use for their own purposes. Seeing as I already have a connection with the club as a contributor of the site they know of my concerns in that area. I am working with the club on another project at the moment involving another carlton-themed website which will hopefully be of significant benefit to the club, I know that people in the club are excited by this idea. Hopefully it will be revealed within a few weeks. The reason I mention this is that I love working for the club as a volunteer and see an opportunity to help them out in an area where they have little to no resources. The Blueseum is also in that category.

I have set 'hotwords' up on blueseum so that every time the word Carlton Football Club is mentioned in the content it will automatically become a hyperlink to the CFC website. As you can see on the site the CFC website, membership and CFC shop all have a prominent link at the top of the page.

I am fully expecting that most of the content will come from myself (hopefully others will be interested and contribute though). The site will probably take several years to complete.

There is no intention to ever put advertising on the site because:
a) it only costs me $20 a year to run
b) I know it would destroy a site that has been community built

Hopefully, the site will grow to be many thousands of pages, which means thousands of pages linking to the CFC site (before any integration), this not only provides visitors to the CFC site but also helps the CFC site with its search engine rankings.

I am not sure how clear or unclear that all is, let me know if there is anything I have missed or any concerns that may have been raised by this.

Author:	Jarusa [ Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:42 am ]
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There is another Blues based website out and about. It can be found at: http://www.blueseum.org It is basically a wiki adapted to the History of the Carlton Football Club. A wiki is basically a community developed documentation project. In other words it is a website where anyone can register and edit/change the webpages. In other words if you have knowledge of the history of the Carlton Football Club you can contribute to this site. Hopefully, over time this site will develop into a comprehensive historical online representation of the Carlton Football Club. At the moment it is basically a blank canvas, there are many options available including blogs, image galleries etc. The usefulness of this site will be largely determined by the people who use it. Wiki's when they work are largely self-regulating, in other word for a history site like this the truth will generally come out. Great sites can be created using the wiki concept, http://www.wikipedia.org is an example. If the Carlton Supporting community can support this project it could turn into something special and stamp us as leaders in the AFL in at least one little category going forward. Hopefully, if it does succeed, it may be donated to the club one day so that they can use it to further advance the club. once again, http://www.blueseum.org Check it out and contribute if you feel like contributing. I would personally like to thank camelboy and bluechucky who have helped get this idea off the ground.

Author:	camel [ Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:26 am ]
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Good work Jarusa. Let's all get behind it kids.

Author:	buzzaaaah [ Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:38 am ]
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Good job Jarusa and CB/BC. Lets try to make this work

Author:	Jarusa [ Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:23 pm ]
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Thanks guys. At the very least I should be able to slowly add to it over time. Might take a few years to turn it into something comprehensive. If a few people get on board though it could be created pretty quickly and will be better quality from a broader group of knowledge. People have already started registering. The whole wiki concept can seem a bit strange to some and it might not be very clear how to go about adding content. If anyone who registers has eny questions do not hesitate to contact me either through this thread, PM or email me at jarusa at iinet dot net dot au.

Author:	molsey [ Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:34 pm ]
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Where would the Club be without you Rusty?

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Author:	7dominator [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:49 pm ]
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Hate to be a spoilsport but for the benefit of consistency could comment be made re disclosure of interest etc? I'd hate to revisit the problems of TBV...

Author:	Jarusa [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:56 pm ]
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7dominator wrote: Hate to be a spoilsport but for the benefit of consistency could comment be made re disclosure of interest etc? I'd hate to revisit the problems of TBV... No problems 7dom, what would you like to know?

Author:	7dominator [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:57 pm ]
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Further...... " It is meant to be complementary to the official club site and not competition, in fact we encourage all Carlton supporters to visit the official site regularly as it provides much needed funds for the club. " Has the Club been involved in this and are they comfortable with it? My concern at the time of the TBV break-up was that Clubs were vulnerable to opportunists ahead of the renewal of Internet site.. Comments would be appreciated....cheers

Author:	7dominator [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:01 pm ]
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Jarusa wrote: 7dominator wrote: Hate to be a spoilsport but for the benefit of consistency could comment be made re disclosure of interest etc? I'd hate to revisit the problems of TBV... No problems 7dom, what would you like to know? Are there any/or could be any pecuniary interest or benefits? Has the Club been involved or opinions sought?

Author:	molsey [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:25 pm ]
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Last time I was in a meeting at the Footy Club with Jarusa, the Carlton reps stood there like dogs with their tails wagging and tongue out, hanging on his every word and thanking him for any ideas. Good questions 7dom but the Club needs Jarusa and anything he can do out of the goodness of his heart. They eagerly anticipate the rollout of a few of his ideas.

Author:	Jarusa [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:26 pm ]
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7dominator wrote: Further...... " It is meant to be complementary to the official club site and not competition, in fact we encourage all Carlton supporters to visit the official site regularly as it provides much needed funds for the club. " Has the Club been involved in this and are they comfortable with it? My concern at the time of the TBV break-up was that Clubs were vulnerable to opportunists ahead of the renewal of Internet site.. Comments would be appreciated....cheers I have not had any formal talks to the club about this particular website. I was going to have a chat to the communications guys about it at our next meeting. At the moment the site is basically a blank canvas and will take some time to fill. If CFC communications want me to change any aspect of the site I will change it, if they want me to shut it down I will shut it down. I do not see the communications department having any problems with the website, and if they do they will let me know about it. I am aware of the issues surrounding not being a competitor to the CFC site, which is why I mention it on the title page in the sentence you quote. The intention of the site on my part is to build up a detailed history of the CFC. If you have a look at the history section on the CFC site it is pretty sparse on detail. I am hoping we can provide for the club the best online history of any of the AFL clubs. In the future I was hoping that the website could be donated to the club so they could use the database to use for their own purposes. Seeing as I already have a connection with the club as a contributor of the site they know of my concerns in that area. I am working with the club on another project at the moment involving another carlton-themed website which will hopefully be of significant benefit to the club, I know that people in the club are excited by this idea. Hopefully it will be revealed within a few weeks. The reason I mention this is that I love working for the club as a volunteer and see an opportunity to help them out in an area where they have little to no resources. The Blueseum is also in that category. I have set 'hotwords' up on blueseum so that every time the word Carlton Football Club is mentioned in the content it will automatically become a hyperlink to the CFC website. As you can see on the site the CFC website, membership and CFC shop all have a prominent link at the top of the page. I am fully expecting that most of the content will come from myself (hopefully others will be interested and contribute though). The site will probably take several years to complete. There is no intention to ever put advertising on the site because: a) it only costs me $20 a year to run b) I know it would destroy a site that has been community built Hopefully, the site will grow to be many thousands of pages, which means thousands of pages linking to the CFC site (before any integration), this not only provides visitors to the CFC site but also helps the CFC site with its search engine rankings. I am not sure how clear or unclear that all is, let me know if there is anything I have missed or any concerns that may have been raised by this.

Author:	Jarusa [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:30 pm ]
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Quote: Are there any/or could be any pecuniary interest or benefits? For someone who is dishonest, yes, there could be future benefits. It is a trust issue. I have thought about how to tackle it. Without a legal background I am not sure how significant it would be, but would a signed document sent to the club stating that the content of the site is intended for the use of the CFC and that it will not be used for private gain, be of any use?

Author:	molsey [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:40 pm ]
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BTW I had real troubles logging in to the site. Does that make me a failed blues dork?

Author:	camel [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:42 pm ]
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Comments noted JJD, I'll try and get cracking for you in the next day or two.

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Author:	Jarusa [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:55 pm ]
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molsey wrote: BTW I had real troubles logging in to the site. Does that make me a failed blues dork? Let me know what happened. Should be able to help. Only just getting used to how it all works myself.

Author:	molsey [ Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:04 pm ]
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Jarusa wrote: molsey wrote: BTW I had real troubles logging in to the site. Does that make me a failed blues dork? Let me know what happened. Should be able to help. Only just getting used to how it all works myself. I've got my information registration email 'Enjoy the site' (yeah, if i could get in bozo!).... but when I click on the link it says username not valid. Maybe I can give you a call or you know the direct email address... ps name was molsey

Author:	Synbad [ Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:51 am ]
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Has the club been informed?

Author:	Jarusa [ Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:04 am ]
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Jarusa wrote: 7dominator wrote: Further...... " It is meant to be complementary to the official club site and not competition, in fact we encourage all Carlton supporters to visit the official site regularly as it provides much needed funds for the club. " Has the Club been involved in this and are they comfortable with it? My concern at the time of the TBV break-up was that Clubs were vulnerable to opportunists ahead of the renewal of Internet site.. Comments would be appreciated....cheers I have not had any formal talks to the club about this particular website. I was going to have a chat to the communications guys about it at our next meeting. At the moment the site is basically a blank canvas and will take some time to fill. If CFC communications want me to change any aspect of the site I will change it, if they want me to shut it down I will shut it down. I do not see the communications department having any problems with the website, and if they do they will let me know about it. I am aware of the issues surrounding not being a competitor to the CFC site, which is why I mention it on the title page in the sentence you quote. The intention of the site on my part is to build up a detailed history of the CFC. If you have a look at the history section on the CFC site it is pretty sparse on detail. I am hoping we can provide for the club the best online history of any of the AFL clubs. In the future I was hoping that the website could be donated to the club so they could use the database to use for their own purposes. Seeing as I already have a connection with the club as a contributor of the site they know of my concerns in that area. I am working with the club on another project at the moment involving another carlton-themed website which will hopefully be of significant benefit to the club, I know that people in the club are excited by this idea. Hopefully it will be revealed within a few weeks. The reason I mention this is that I love working for the club as a volunteer and see an opportunity to help them out in an area where they have little to no resources. The Blueseum is also in that category. I have set 'hotwords' up on blueseum so that every time the word Carlton Football Club is mentioned in the content it will automatically become a hyperlink to the CFC website. As you can see on the site the CFC website, membership and CFC shop all have a prominent link at the top of the page. I am fully expecting that most of the content will come from myself (hopefully others will be interested and contribute though). The site will probably take several years to complete. There is no intention to ever put advertising on the site because: a) it only costs me $20 a year to run b) I know it would destroy a site that has been community built Hopefully, the site will grow to be many thousands of pages, which means thousands of pages linking to the CFC site (before any integration), this not only provides visitors to the CFC site but also helps the CFC site with its search engine rankings. I am not sure how clear or unclear that all is, let me know if there is anything I have missed or any concerns that may have been raised by this.

Author:	Synbad [ Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:24 am ]
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But why wouldnt you inform the club of what youre doing???

Author:	Jarusa [ Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:33 am ]
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Synbad wrote: But why wouldnt you inform the club of what youre doing??? I'm not sure Synbad. I have been having ongoing talks with them about another project that is much more important than the blueseum. I guess because it is small potatoes. In my head, this project will not start being useful for the club for at least another year. Therefore, plenty of time to discuss with the club any issues they may have. Like I said, when I bring it up with the club if they want the site deleted I will delete it. If ownership is an issue, I will hand it over. Whatever the club wants I will do. I know the communications department very well and I don't see them having any problems with it. When I do discuss it with them I will let you guys know what happens.