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sinbagger wrote:

billc3 wrote:

Dow in to play off half back... Defensive role on Melksham

Go Blues!

He’ll take Kennedy’s position at full back.

Kennedy to relief ruck

Go Blues

Don't know why you say Doc for "one last cracK" at midfield I think he is great value for us there, the only thing he is also the general of defence.

Not sure Marchbank is ready to come back into the firsts yet, but keen for him to get there.

Rest of the ins I have no problem with, but Dow seems to have his papers stamped. If Cerra Cripps and Hewett are all out and he still doesn't get picked then I think the writing is very clearly on the wall. It is his ball use and lack of defensive running that keeps him out - he gets enough ball and has a burst of acceleration we could use.

O'Brien is a tease but he has tools namely run and the ability to kick the ball albeit not as consistent with that as we would hope.

One could argue for Fisher instead based on his game this week and Fogarty for consistent effort. Perhaps Silvagni as a jack of all trades who could run with Petracca, play forward or back and relieve in the ruck if need be.

That might depend on what we do with our Ruck options. Ruling out Mirkov and O'Keeffe as not ready we are left with Pittonet and TDK as rucks, Young as a ruck height player but essentially KD who can play forward and/or take a run in the ruck and Jack as an undersized relief ruck option. Then there is the suggestion of giving Harry a run in the ruck to try and get him away from his goal kicking yips. Not a bad idea in my view. Pittonet and TDK are both in the team and did enough to stay in as far as I am concerned. Young is out and didn't do enough to come in. JSOS wasn't great in the 2s but has that versatility on his side.

Personally I'd be telling Harry he has a new role this week - either KD or KF/relief ruck whichever he prefers. If he says KD play TDK forward if he says relief ruck play TDK down back and see how he goes. I am not one of those who says just because his brother is a gun KD TDK would be too, indeed I am a bit sceptical, but we may as well give it a shot if the option is either Weitering giving away huge height or Young being recalled.

blueianh wrote:

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His papers were stamped when we had an even worse injury list in the last two weeks last year and didn't get a look in. I can overlook the constant need to put his teammates under pressure with panicked disposal and the overall lack of intensity. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that he just looks scared at AFL level.

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Sydney Blue wrote:

Kennedy won't play this week.
Go back and take a look at the mark he took in the 3rd quarter. He was crunched and was sitting on bench with track top on.
Only came back on due to injuries to Hewett Cripps Holland and Newman

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so... cerra suspended, hewett in la la land, kennedy injured, question mark over cripps.....

is carroll injured? if not, does he come into the midfield? sos in the midfield as well? i know he is treacle, but he has determination

bender wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

I think Carroll is injured at the moment.

Perhaps Silvagni as a jack of all trades who could run with Petracca, play forward or back and relieve in the ruck if need be.

Rod Spooky Galt wrote:

blueianh wrote:

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If he can't get a game this week and his papers were stamped why not have him fake a long term injury and go to the mid season draft? Makes no sense keeping him there. Play him or get rid of him now.

Sydney Blue wrote:

A poster on BF suggesting Pittonet may not play, anyone heard anything?

kezza wrote:

A poster on BF suggesting Pittonet may not play, anyone heard anything?

Fairly standard new contract injury

Surely Binns gets a go

frank dardew wrote:

Surely Binns gets a go

We’ve got a fair bit of trash to take out so may as well use Binns

Scotty12000 wrote:

frank dardew wrote:

Surely Binns gets a go

We’ve got a fair bit of trash to take out so may as well use Binns

So Thursday is Binns day?

Author:	bluegirl72 [ Sun May 28, 2023 10:23 am ]
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billc3 wrote: sinbagger wrote: billc3 wrote: Dow in to play off half back... Defensive role on Melksham Go Blues! He’ll take Kennedy’s position at full back. Kennedy to relief ruck Go Blues Sure. I guess. As good as playing him down back.

Author:	Rod Spooky Galt [ Sun May 28, 2023 10:33 am ]
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blueianh wrote: Don't know why you say Doc for "one last cracK" at midfield I think he is great value for us there, the only thing he is also the general of defence. Numerous posts already on the subject from multiple posters - his efforts at CBAs this year have been woeful. Quote: Not sure Marchbank is ready to come back into the firsts yet, but keen for him to get there. Two full games in the VFL should be enough. Also wonder how much they want to try Young forward. Quote: Rest of the ins I have no problem with, but Dow seems to have his papers stamped. If Cerra Cripps and Hewett are all out and he still doesn't get picked then I think the writing is very clearly on the wall. It is his ball use and lack of defensive running that keeps him out - he gets enough ball and has a burst of acceleration we could use. His papers were stamped when we had an even worse injury list in the last two weeks last year and didn't get a look in. I can overlook the constant need to put his teammates under pressure with panicked disposal and the overall lack of intensity. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that he just looks scared at AFL level. Quote: O'Brien is a tease but he has tools namely run and the ability to kick the ball albeit not as consistent with that as we would hope. I'd like to give him one more chance to redeem himself - the Melbourne game will haunt him for sure. Don't think he's had a great go at it this year. I think he's got the physical attributes that suit the sub role, but again, mentally not so much. Needs the full game to build his confidence and work into it. His one full game for the year he was shitful, but I think a) there's something to work with, b) Acres should be kept honest, and c) it's a like for like in Hollands' role. Quote: One could argue for Fisher instead based on his game this week and Fogarty for consistent effort. Perhaps Silvagni as a jack of all trades who could run with Petracca, play forward or back and relieve in the ruck if need be. Fogarty, I'm not against giving a game or two to if the season is over. Give him the same chance Setterfield got to show something. JSOS and Fisher can sit in the twos until they can kick a set shot and on his non-preferred side with any consistency. We've seen what they can do, and it's limited. 10 and 7 years into the system respectively is a concern. Quote: That might depend on what we do with our Ruck options. Ruling out Mirkov and O'Keeffe as not ready we are left with Pittonet and TDK as rucks, Young as a ruck height player but essentially KD who can play forward and/or take a run in the ruck and Jack as an undersized relief ruck option. Then there is the suggestion of giving Harry a run in the ruck to try and get him away from his goal kicking yips. Not a bad idea in my view. Pittonet and TDK are both in the team and did enough to stay in as far as I am concerned. Young is out and didn't do enough to come in. JSOS wasn't great in the 2s but has that versatility on his side. Personally I'd be telling Harry he has a new role this week - either KD or KF/relief ruck whichever he prefers. If he says KD play TDK forward if he says relief ruck play TDK down back and see how he goes. I am not one of those who says just because his brother is a gun KD TDK would be too, indeed I am a bit sceptical, but we may as well give it a shot if the option is either Weitering giving away huge height or Young being recalled. Tend to agree. If it wasn't Gawn/Grundy this week, I wouldn't be playing TDK unless he was the second tall forward, do like your idea of trialling him down back - I'd like to see him run with Tom McDonald - a role that isn't necessarily going to hurt us on the scoreboard if he's following Tom up the wings to be the bail out mark, but I don't think Kemp has the skillset to compete with either.

Author:	Navy One [ Sun May 28, 2023 10:39 am ]
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote: blueianh wrote: .............................. Quote: Rest of the ins I have no problem with, but Dow seems to have his papers stamped. If Cerra Cripps and Hewett are all out and he still doesn't get picked then I think the writing is very clearly on the wall. It is his ball use and lack of defensive running that keeps him out - he gets enough ball and has a burst of acceleration we could use. His papers were stamped when we had an even worse injury list in the last two weeks last year and didn't get a look in. I can overlook the constant need to put his teammates under pressure with panicked disposal and the overall lack of intensity. I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that he just looks scared at AFL level. ............................... If he can't get a game this week and his papers were stamped why not have him fake a long term injury and go to the mid season draft? Makes no sense keeping him there. Play him or get rid of him now.

Author:	kezza [ Sun May 28, 2023 11:01 am ]
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bender wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: Kennedy won't play this week. Go back and take a look at the mark he took in the 3rd quarter. He was crunched and was sitting on bench with track top on. Only came back on due to injuries to Hewett Cripps Holland and Newman Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk so... cerra suspended, hewett in la la land, kennedy injured, question mark over cripps..... is carroll injured? if not, does he come into the midfield? sos in the midfield as well? i know he is treacle, but he has determination I think Carroll is injured at the moment.

Author:	bluehammer [ Sun May 28, 2023 11:18 am ]
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kezza wrote: bender wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: Kennedy won't play this week. Go back and take a look at the mark he took in the 3rd quarter. He was crunched and was sitting on bench with track top on. Only came back on due to injuries to Hewett Cripps Holland and Newman Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk so... cerra suspended, hewett in la la land, kennedy injured, question mark over cripps..... is carroll injured? if not, does he come into the midfield? sos in the midfield as well? i know he is treacle, but he has determination I think Carroll is injured at the moment. Oh Carroll...

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Author:	bluehammer [ Sun May 28, 2023 11:21 am ]
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blueianh wrote: Perhaps Silvagni as a jack of all trades who could run with Petracca, play forward or back and relieve in the ruck if need be. Love some of the other stuff but Silvagni couldn't run a bath. Petracca will exhaust himself laughing.

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Sun May 28, 2023 11:38 am ]
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JSOS acquitted himself better in the backline on Friday than Marchbank. Marchbank is not ready to return Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

Author:	kezza [ Sun May 28, 2023 11:48 am ]
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A poster on BF suggesting Pittonet may not play, anyone heard anything?

Author:	sinbagger [ Sun May 28, 2023 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:	R12: Melbourne Vs Carlton (Pre match discussion)
bender wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: Kennedy won't play this week. Go back and take a look at the mark he took in the 3rd quarter. He was crunched and was sitting on bench with track top on. Only came back on due to injuries to Hewett Cripps Holland and Newman Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk so... cerra suspended, hewett in la la land, kennedy injured, question mark over cripps..... is carroll injured? if not, does he come into the midfield? sos in the midfield as well? i know he is treacle, but he has determination Carrol didn’t play VFL

Author:	sinbagger [ Sun May 28, 2023 12:27 pm ]
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Marchbank has only played one and a half vfl games, it maybe that’s enough. I don’t think he was really tested on the weekend as the swans vfl team was very weak and our defence was extremely strong and experienced for the VFL.

Author:	bluehammer [ Sun May 28, 2023 12:36 pm ]
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kezza wrote: A poster on BF suggesting Pittonet may not play, anyone heard anything? Fairly standard new contract injury

Author:	kezza [ Sun May 28, 2023 12:51 pm ]
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bluehammer wrote: kezza wrote: A poster on BF suggesting Pittonet may not play, anyone heard anything? Fairly standard new contract injury

Author:	17th Premiership [ Sun May 28, 2023 5:14 pm ]
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I can’t imagine Cripps will be out. If he can walk he’ll play, given the other injuries and suspension. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marchbank as the sub. Probably planning for a post-bye comeback but with the injuries maybe they bank on him being able to play 3/4s if required and hope he doesn’t need to come on before 1/4 time or half time. On the other hand, I’d be happy if we still played the long game with him and stuck to his plan. I don’t think they’ll move the magnets given how Voss appeared happy with aspects of our play. But obviously we’ll need to replace players. Out: Cerra, Hewett, Newman, Hollands In: O’Brien, Cincotta, Dow, JSOS Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Author:	kennyhunter [ Sun May 28, 2023 5:20 pm ]
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Might not be the worst thing if Cripps is too hurt to play. Then the MC would be FORCED to change things up. Or even plonk him in the fwd line. We’d beat ‘em with behinds. Won’t happen, of course.

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Author:	frank dardew [ Sun May 28, 2023 5:24 pm ]
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Surely Binns gets a go

Author:	Scotty12000 [ Sun May 28, 2023 5:35 pm ]
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frank dardew wrote: Surely Binns gets a go We’ve got a fair bit of trash to take out so may as well use Binns

Author:	bluegirl72 [ Sun May 28, 2023 5:44 pm ]
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Nice one Frank.

Author:	99prelim [ Sun May 28, 2023 8:02 pm ]
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Scotty12000 wrote: frank dardew wrote: Surely Binns gets a go We’ve got a fair bit of trash to take out so may as well use Binns So Thursday is Binns day?

Author:	CFC8795 [ Sun May 28, 2023 8:34 pm ]
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99prelim wrote: Scotty12000 wrote: frank dardew wrote: Surely Binns gets a go We’ve got a fair bit of trash to take out so may as well use Binns So Thursday is Binns day? Where's he wheelie Binn(s)?