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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 10:25 pm 
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redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp
Cottrell and owies very average players straight in :screwy:


Straight in?

Cottrell has played the last 2 weeks in the VFL and played his wing role as expected, and continued to kick goals in each game.

Owies came back in through the VFL last week and kicked 3.4. He kicked 5 goals in 1 game and 1 quarter before doing his hammy and missing 4 matches. Came back and dominated in the 2s, deserves to come in.

How can you make such a bold statement about selectors using such a false claim?


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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 10:39 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
How I'd line up

B: Cincotta Young McGovern
HB: Docherty Weitering Saad
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Durdin Curnow Walsh
F: Silvagni McKay Motlop
Foll: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
Int: Kennedy (mid) Owies (fwd) Cottrell (mid/fwd) Newman (def)
Boyd(sub)

Charlie to play further up the ground
McKay deep
Walsh as extra mid
Kennedy has to play mid NOT defence
Team defence on Bont

On paper this side is good enough to win
EMG
Boyd, Ed, Fog and Kemp....

Got it now... I was wondering why Boyd was being discussed when he wasn't even an in
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Have to be gentle with me.... I'm getting old!

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2023 11:50 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp
Cottrell and owies very average players straight in :screwy:


Straight in?

Cottrell has played the last 2 weeks in the VFL and played his wing role [/b]as expected, and continued to kick goals in each game.

Owies came back in through the VFL last week and kicked 3.4. He kicked 5 goals in 1 game and 1 quarter before doing his hammy and missing 4 matches. Came back and [b]dominated in the 2s, deserves to come in
.

How can you make such a bold statement about selectors using such a false claim?


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 6:40 am 
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Who is taking Libba??
While Bont is the match winner, Libba is the barometer. I reckon if we can stop Libba, goes a long way to winning the match.
Could that be a role for Hewett?


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 8:22 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
IN: Matthew Cottrell, Matthew Kennedy, Matthew Owies





3 Matts in. Hope they don't walk all over us....

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 8:23 am 
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redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp


The VFL is for development. The AFL is for winning games of football.
You are offered an opportunity to perform. It's up to the player to take the opportunity.
Kemp didn't.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:09 am 
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So we've rolled out the Matts for a Blue chip performance.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:22 am 
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Both team have their key talls in.
They're taller across the board.
They also have the smallest player on the ground Cleb Daniels.

Jamarra passed fitness test.
O'Donell making his debut. He's SOS size.

Fascinating match ups.

All eyes on Vossy's tweaked game plan?

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:28 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp
Cottrell and owies very average players straight in :screwy:


Straight in?

Cottrell has played the last 2 weeks in the VFL and played his wing role [/b]as expected, and continued to kick goals in each game.

Owies came back in through the VFL last week and kicked 3.4. He kicked 5 goals in 1 game and 1 quarter before doing his hammy and missing 4 matches. Came back and [b]dominated in the 2s, deserves to come in
.

How can you make such a bold statement about selectors using such a false claim?


:lol: :lol: :lol:


So a small forward kicking 3.4 isn't dominating in his role?


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:34 am 
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17th Premiership wrote:
Who is taking Libba??
While Bont is the match winner, Libba is the barometer. I reckon if we can stop Libba, goes a long way to winning the match.
Could that be a role for Hewett?


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Would have been a perfect opportunity to bring Zac Fisher back in. Just imagine the world ending chaos when two of the shittest tat's in history collided.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 9:59 am 
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Docherty has to play back at least early in the game and we need Cinks, Gov and Saad to have their accurate kicking boots on out of the backline.

We should win.

There, I have said it!
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 10:32 am 
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Heavs wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Who is taking Libba??
While Bont is the match winner, Libba is the barometer. I reckon if we can stop Libba, goes a long way to winning the match.
Could that be a role for Hewett?


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Would have been a perfect opportunity to bring Zac Fisher back in. Just imagine the world ending chaos when two of the shittest tat's in history collided.


Libba's Homer Simpson tat is the GOAT.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 1:01 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Libba's Homer Simpson tat is the GOAT.


Jeremy Freedman tatt even better!

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 3:37 pm 
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I just want to see an improvement/adjustment in game style. That's my biggest hope


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 5:56 pm 
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I don’t think we’re playing well enough to beat the Dogs (who I expect to play finals again) this week.

But there’s a big difference between saying “we’re out of form and need to improve” and saying “we’re [REDACTED], the club is a basket case and everyone needs the SAKC!” :roll:

I’ve been saying pretty consistently for 12 months that we have reasons to be positive but we still have quite a long way to go before we’re in the top bracket. Nothing so far this season has changed my perspective on that.

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 6:30 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp
Cottrell and owies very average players straight in :screwy:


Straight in?

Cottrell has played the last 2 weeks in the VFL and played his wing role [/b]as expected, and continued to kick goals in each game.

Owies came back in through the VFL last week and kicked 3.4. He kicked 5 goals in 1 game and 1 quarter before doing his hammy and missing 4 matches. Came back and [b]dominated in the 2s, deserves to come in
.

How can you make such a bold statement about selectors using such a false claim?


:lol: :lol: :lol:


So a small forward kicking 3.4 isn't dominating in his role?


Just one this one alone, it depends how you get them and more importantly how many games have you put your hand up with? I’m sure it’s been a good month or ‘knocking down the door’ from him!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 6:32 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp
Cottrell and owies very average players straight in :screwy:


Straight in?

Cottrell has played the last 2 weeks in the VFL and played his wing role as expected, and continued to kick goals in each game.

Owies came back in through the VFL last week and kicked 3.4. He kicked 5 goals in 1 game and 1 quarter before doing his hammy and missing 4 matches. Came back and dominated in the 2s, deserves to come in.

How can you make such a bold statement about selectors using such a false claim?



At best 2 average players back in the side after average games in a the vfl.
That to me is straight in without forcing their way into our senior side.
This is why the way we have been for years now.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 6:47 pm 
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The team picked is what it is.

Its well past time to accept the gameplan that has seen us go backwards, and no sign of anything changing.

What I want to see is:

Proactive coaching with a mindset and the guts to make changes when needed to the gameplan in real time.

Stop with the "Doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result".

Play hard, relentless footy for the whole game, instill the aspiration of the team to make a statement and give them the belief they can do so and do it consistently.

Over to you Vossy, coaching staff and playing group...

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 6:54 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp


The VFL is for development. The AFL is for winning games of football.
You are offered an opportunity to perform. It's up to the player to take the opportunity.
Kemp didn't.



Probably the worst statement i have ever heard.
So if you can only develop in the ressies why do kids that are promoted to the seniors don't rip it apart in the afl immediately and forever. :confused: . They are of course developed fully, are they not? I always thought there was a huge jump in standard.

This misguided logic is probably the main reason we are pathetic at development. We don't give kids time to adjust and acclimatize to senior footy. You can't pick up the pace in a week or two or even get synergy with your team mates in a year. We need to settle these young kids with each other and the better senior teams as quick as possible for a longer time we play average players that have reached their ceiling and can't improve the side.
For god sake our seniors have pathetic games on end but we still play them but we rip out the confidence and nature enthusiasm of our future by pounding them into the ground and punishing their natural talent and crippling their growth.

Lazy and pressure building coaching.


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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2023 7:28 pm 
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redback wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
redback wrote:
NFI how to develop our players, re:Kemp


The VFL is for development. The AFL is for winning games of football.
You are offered an opportunity to perform. It's up to the player to take the opportunity.
Kemp didn't.



Probably the worst statement i have ever heard.
So if you can only develop in the ressies why do kids that are promoted to the seniors don't rip it apart in the afl immediately and forever. :confused: . They are of course developed fully, are they not? I always thought there was a huge jump in standard.

This misguided logic is probably the main reason we are pathetic at development. We don't give kids time to adjust and acclimatize to senior footy. You can't pick up the pace in a week or two or even get synergy with your team mates in a year. We need to settle these young kids with each other and the better senior teams as quick as possible for a longer time we play average players that have reached their ceiling and can't improve the side.
For god sake our seniors have pathetic games on end but we still play them but we rip out the confidence and nature enthusiasm of our future by pounding them into the ground and punishing their natural talent and crippling their growth.

Lazy and pressure building coaching.


Another sook who cries like a baby when we lose but then complains when we drop underperforming players. :lol:
Seriously, some of our supporters have the resilience of a pre-schooler. We're a third of the way through the season, get a grip.

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