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75 tackles to 57.
We probably missed another 25+ also.
But this stat is pretty standard to win when you're getting pumped.

The interesting part is we won the tackles inside 50, 17 to 2.
Yet we still couldn't apply any scoreboard pressure.
Sloppy rushed entries vs clean patient entires.
Backed up by the marks inside 50, where we lost 7 to 20.

These 2 stats alone highlight we have a midfield skills issue.

That draw is proving to be handy at the moment.
If we won, we'd still be 3rd and if we lost we'd be 9th.
Lowest we can go this round will be 4th if Collingwood win.

When you're beaten to the ball and opposition gets first use, it only makes sense you out-tackle them. You don't tackle when you have the ball.

I'm not impressed by the tackle numbers. Or "breaking even" after quarter time... another Voss miss-fire in the presser.

We did Setterfield earlier. Now do Stocker.. how's he going in a well coached team.

If anyone needs any more evidence why we're going nowhere fast, it's those two.

Two FRINGE players. One in the midfield, one at half back... both lines on which we're getting our pants pulled down... and these two FRINGE players have slotted into sides StKilda and CheatsFC that finished BELOW us last year, brought in new coaches and were pre-season basket cases... BOTH of which now sit above us on the ladder.. And we're still 3rd! Which for the geniuses out there means they're 1 and 2.

LOL.

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Awkward! hopefully it's just a new club bounce and they'll be frustrating their shithead supporters soon. Also let's hope the likes of Hewett, Young and Acres can enrage their previous fanbases.

Have a look at robertbb's recent posts in this thread for an idea as to what my problem is.....

As a club, we don't have the credits in the bank to do shit like this and pass it off as "the boys are human, they have a sense of humour, leave them alone".

Also just proves how empty his words were last week re. giving up the last 4 goals against Norf...

Having said that, it seems to me that Essendon* (as much as I could stand watching them) had a midfield stacked with outsiders, and ours was stacked with insiders, so he was always going to be of more worth to them than us. Unfortunately that didn't factor into negotiations, where we adopted the strategy of the Germans selling the nuclear plant to Mr Burns.

Williams, Docherty, Saad, Newman, Boyd. If fit they'd all be getting a game before Stocker and he'd still be playing VFL.
You cant keep excessive numbers of each role on the off chance you have a spate of injuries. List spots are limited..

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I'd reckon our tackle numbers were boosted by the shear number of times we'd send 2 players to tackle the Adelaide player (& he'd still get the handball away to the spare)

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Well, as we're still in Adelaide for a few days, we went and had a look at Collingwood StKlida. Because why not.

Stocker played very well. Just saying.

We'll get to have a very good look at him again next week. Against us.

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Stocker did nine tenths of @#$%&! all at Carlton and if he was still here he'd be carrying on the same.

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Because we had/have a shit system.

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On that, I often wonder is the failure of the likes of Dow, SPS, LOB etc all on SOS or on our player development and systems we have in place.
SOS is the last person in the world I'll defend, but Dow was rated by most in the top handful in his draft year. Pretty sure SPS was too.
LOB was a stretch at 10 and we only took him cos Ed Richards was stuck in traffic and though better than LOB, not sure how much more he would have offered.
Point is, how much of this is on SOS and how much on the lack of development once they come into the club?
And how much is on the player themselves and them wanting to get the absolute best out of themselves?

IIRC, SPS was a shock at his selection. From memory he had a good 16's carnival and stalled significantly from there.

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I thought SPS looked really promising his first season, then he seemed to withdraw further and further into himself as time went on. He had a good long kick in those early days, by the time he left he was exclusively doing 15m dinks. No idea what happened there, probably a bit of Column A and Column B going on.

You could be right on that. My memory isn't the best.

Culture, player systems and development trump talent. Don’t get wrong, choosing the right player is extremely important but premierships are built on game style and cohesion more so than talent. It‘s a primary reason why Geelong has been so good for so long.

I was at the combine the year SPS was picked (at the time I was dating someone who worked for NAB, and she got tickets). So I got to watch them all run around doing the testing, plus kept an eye on them in between tests.

I am on record on these forums as saying I would not have picked SPS.

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Speaking of 2016 draft.

How good would Tim English look in Navy (coulda had him with the SPS pick), along with either Patrick Lipinski or Shai Bolton (both of whom were picked consecutively after Zac Fisher).

That draft was a total cock-up.

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He was selected around about where he was predicted to go. It was certainly no shock. Altho it was no secret SOS wanted Setterfield who went at the pick before at 5.

I go to around 5-6 training sessions a month. Have some friends involved and we get in most times.

What I have noticed since the end of last year is massive work on structure, game plan etc. I have not seen any attention paid to skills. No specialist work on skills.

I know many at Melbourne reckon that Mark Williams going there and focussing on skills really changed their game and confidence.

I would to see us do more in this area