TalkingCarlton :: View topic - R3: GWS Vs Carlton (Pre match discussion)

keogh wrote:

Folks
There are no gimmy games in the AFL these days
Anyone that turns up 95% primed against any opposition 100% primed will lose
Over the course of the 22 matches plus finals the best team invariably takes the title
But it’s impossible to be humanly 100% primed every game
And due to better coaching, conditioning, recovery program’s facilities etc the competition becomes more even with every year
So to assume that losing to GWS on Saturday is a bad loss is a statement from someone who lives in the past
Geelong were terrible Thursday night
They were not switched on
GWS arnt a bad side

I get what you’re saying but still think we need to beat GWS (and basically need to win 3 or 4 of the next 5 matches).
The improvement this year has been in our ability to slow the game down which we couldn’t do last year. We did well with the hard, forward game early last year until teams shut that down and we didn’t have much else in the kit bag.
This year, maybe we do.
But the big change needs to be that we can apply ourselves for longer and more often. Last year we would show up quite well mentally against the better teams, but then drop to that 95% or less against some of the more mediocre teams, or when we’d built up a good lead.
This year, we need to Frank the wins against good teams, with wins against the more mediocre teams (and ram home a big win if/when the opportunity presents).
That is why beating GWS is important. I agree that GWS aren’t a bad side and Adelaide is going to be more challenging than it may at first appear. But we need to beat them.

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Why wouldn't Doc be a good match-up for Green?

Anyone but Plowman seriously.

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They should get Kelly and Whitfield back this week
We should get Hewitt
We need to stop Taylor and Haynes marking the ball and bring it to ground.

I think Weiters can handle Hogan
Ed will chase the bunny all game.
Toby is the issue we don't have a match up.
I think asking Cowan to go to him is a bit much.
Dare I say it but Plowman is a better match up.
I think Durdin and Motlop should have a day out.
Last time we played them up here Kennedy turned the game in the 3rd quarter and Charlie iced it in the last.
Harry was out
Zac Williams did his Achilles in the opening quarter

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My side:

B: Cowan Young McGovern
HB: Docherty Weitering Saad
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Durdin McKay E.Curnow
F: Charlie TDK Motlop
Foll: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
Int: Kennedy Newman Owies Silvagni
Sub: Fisher
Em: Plowman Carroll Dow

If Hewett not fit, Carroll comes in

Keen to see Cowan v Greene.

We don’t play a man-on-man type of defence, but you just know that Toby will go at the young bloke early.

Our guy is up to the challenge.

Crusader wrote:

Keen to see Cowan v Greene.

We don’t play a man-on-man type of defence, but you just know that Toby will go at the young bloke early.

Our guy is up to the challenge.

Unsubscribe on that on Cru.
Look it would be interesting, but I fear Toby will destroy the kid.

I bet he's more comfortable these days with the club in good hands, stable and rising.
Probably why we don't read posts from him anymore.
A bloke you'd want in your corner rather than against you.

Author:	tommi [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:46 pm ]
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Mr Syn…. spoke with him today…legend…! we discussed John Bonham…John Keats…Byron… and the Byzantine era…all in one sentence practically…! fantastic…always a highlight chatting with the great man…love him…! kindest regards tommi

Author:	keogh [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:50 pm ]
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17th Premiership wrote: keogh wrote: Folks There are no gimmy games in the AFL these days Anyone that turns up 95% primed against any opposition 100% primed will lose Over the course of the 22 matches plus finals the best team invariably takes the title But it’s impossible to be humanly 100% primed every game And due to better coaching, conditioning, recovery program’s facilities etc the competition becomes more even with every year So to assume that losing to GWS on Saturday is a bad loss is a statement from someone who lives in the past Geelong were terrible Thursday night They were not switched on GWS arnt a bad side I get what you’re saying but still think we need to beat GWS (and basically need to win 3 or 4 of the next 5 matches). The improvement this year has been in our ability to slow the game down which we couldn’t do last year. We did well with the hard, forward game early last year until teams shut that down and we didn’t have much else in the kit bag. This year, maybe we do. But the big change needs to be that we can apply ourselves for longer and more often. Last year we would show up quite well mentally against the better teams, but then drop to that 95% or less against some of the more mediocre teams, or when we’d built up a good lead. This year, we need to Frank the wins against good teams, with wins against the more mediocre teams (and ram home a big win if/when the opportunity presents). That is why beating GWS is important. I agree that GWS aren’t a bad side and Adelaide is going to be more challenging than it may at first appear. But we need to beat them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To say that we need to win the next few matches including this Saturday is ridiculous. You simply look to this week See how GWS play They certainly are playing with more dare and courage Clearly Cameron had done his time there last year Their midfield is still good If anyone assumes that Carlton is better than GWS therefore should win clearly doesn’t get it

Author:	17th Premiership [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:56 pm ]
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Maybe you’re right. I believe Carlton should be a top 8 team this year and more so top 6. I don’t see GWS as a finals team. If Carlton is the team I believe it should be, given our list & footy department, we should beat GWS (and 2-3 of the following 4 matches). If we can’t do that, then I will clearly have overestimated us. Or, I am a bit early but they will improve to this point throughout the season (as Geelong did last year, and Collingwood). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:03 pm ]
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They should get Kelly and Whitfield back this week We should get Hewitt We need to stop Taylor and Haynes marking the ball and bring it to ground. I think Weiters can handle Hogan Ed will chase the bunny all game. Toby is the issue we don't have a match up. I think asking Cowan to go to him is a bit much. Dare I say it but Plowman is a better match up. I think Durdin and Motlop should have a day out. Last time we played them up here Kennedy turned the game in the 3rd quarter and Charlie iced it in the last. Harry was out Zac Williams did his Achilles in the opening quarter Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

Author:	robertbb [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:15 pm ]
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Why wouldn't Doc be a good match-up for Green? Anyone but Plowman seriously.

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Author:	bluehammer [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:18 pm ]
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Let them worry about us.

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:12 pm ]
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robertbb wrote: Why wouldn't Doc be a good match-up for Green? Anyone but Plowman seriously. Why would we waste Doc on Green? Doc is a star If Hewett is back we take them on PS Plowman is underrated

Author:	FarmerBlue [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:20 pm ]
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My side: B: Cowan Young McGovern HB: Docherty Weitering Saad C: Acres Cripps Hollands HF: Durdin McKay E.Curnow F: Charlie TDK Motlop Foll: Pittonet Hewett Cerra Int: Kennedy Newman Owies Silvagni Sub: Fisher Em: Plowman Carroll Dow If Hewett not fit, Carroll comes in

Author:	CK95 [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:10 pm ]
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Newman played on dusty & did OK. I wouldn't mind him going to Toby Sent from my Nokia G21 using Tapatalk

Author:	BigGartos [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:24 pm ]
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tommi wrote: Mr Syn…. spoke with him today…legend…! we discussed John Bonham…John Keats…Byron… and the Byzantine era…all in one sentence practically…! fantastic…always a highlight chatting with the great man…love him…! kindest regards tommi Tell him we said Hi! Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk

Author:	tommi [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:41 pm ]
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I will Big Guy…. we reminisced about the good ol days of robust banter…he was and still is the best at it…! kindest regards tommi love talking music with him…!

Author:	Mickstar [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:05 am ]
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BigGartos wrote: tommi wrote: Mr Syn…. spoke with him today…legend…! we discussed John Bonham…John Keats…Byron… and the Byzantine era…all in one sentence practically…! fantastic…always a highlight chatting with the great man…love him…! kindest regards tommi Tell him we said Hi! Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk Yep , from me too . The David Rhys-Jones of the keyboard . Great bloke till he crossed that white line . Synbad same except a keyboard instead of a white line . Same affect . Geez , a guest appearance every now and then from " The Big Sinner ". How good would that be .

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:05 am ]
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tommi wrote: Mr Syn…. spoke with him today…legend…! we discussed John Bonham…John Keats…Byron… and the Byzantine era…all in one sentence practically…! fantastic…always a highlight chatting with the great man…love him…! kindest regards tommi Highly intelligent educated man in Synners. Articulate and well versed in the scripts from Antiquity. Fights a good fight with logic. Good footballer back in the day at Prahran. I bet he's more comfortable these days with the club in good hands, stable and rising. Probably why we don't read posts from him anymore. A bloke you'd want in your corner rather than against you.

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:09 am ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: They should get Kelly and Whitfield back this week We should get Hewitt We need to stop Taylor and Haynes marking the ball and bring it to ground. I think Weiters can handle Hogan Ed will chase the bunny all game. Toby is the issue we don't have a match up. I think asking Cowan to go to him is a bit much. Dare I say it but Plowman is a better match up. I think Durdin and Motlop should have a day out. Last time we played them up here Kennedy turned the game in the 3rd quarter and Charlie iced it in the last. Harry was out Zac Williams did his Achilles in the opening quarter Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk Is this the real Sydney Blue? I'm sure you don't rate Plow that much, or do you? Obviously you do, coz you posted it. Newman is another as long as he stays close to Toby, Doc another, but would rather Doc be freed up and Newman as the lock down.

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Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:15 am ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: My side: B: Cowan Young McGovern HB: Docherty Weitering Saad C: Acres Cripps Hollands HF: Durdin McKay E.Curnow F: Charlie TDK Motlop Foll: Pittonet Hewett Cerra Int: Kennedy Newman Owies Silvagni Sub: Fisher Em: Plowman Carroll Dow If Hewett not fit, Carroll comes in This is my team. Carroll needs games under his belt when he's fit and in form. If Hewett is not right its no change for me. If I was going to make a change I'd keep Fishger as the sub, and like to see Dow as an inside mid and see if he can finally translate his reserves form to the ones. I have not written Dow off. Well I did years ago, but Ive seen enough to change my mind. Carroll is playing an outside role, so if he came in, I'd keep Ed as the inside mid/tagger and Carroll on the outside. I really dont think Carroll is that quick and the pace of the game at AFL is too much, but then again, he needs to get another taste and see where he's at at some stage.

Author:	Crusader [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:51 am ]
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FarmerBlue wrote: My side: B: Cowan Young McGovern HB: Docherty Weitering Saad C: Acres Cripps Hollands HF: Durdin McKay E.Curnow F: Charlie TDK Motlop Foll: Pittonet Hewett Cerra Int: Kennedy Newman Owies Silvagni Sub: Fisher Em: Plowman Carroll Dow If Hewett not fit, Carroll comes in Yeah, that’s about right… though, I’m not certain Fisher is a self-starter type that can come in and do a job - fresh legs or otherwise. He’s just woeful defensively. No pressure whatsoever. Slim pickings outside the 23 though.

Author:	Crusader [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:02 am ]
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Keen to see Cowan v Greene. We don’t play a man-on-man type of defence, but you just know that Toby will go at the young bloke early. Our guy is up to the challenge.

Author:	Sidefx [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:32 am ]
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Crusader wrote: Keen to see Cowan v Greene. We don’t play a man-on-man type of defence, but you just know that Toby will go at the young bloke early. Our guy is up to the challenge. Unsubscribe on that on Cru. Look it would be interesting, but I fear Toby will destroy the kid.

Author:	bluebo baggers [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:50 am ]
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Sidefx wrote: Crusader wrote: Keen to see Cowan v Greene. We don’t play a man-on-man type of defence, but you just know that Toby will go at the young bloke early. Our guy is up to the challenge. Unsubscribe on that on Cru. Look it would be interesting, but I fear Toby will destroy the kid. Yeah I'm with you on this Sidey - reckon Newman gets first crack.

Author:	DocSherrin III [ Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:58 am ]
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bondiblue wrote: I bet he's more comfortable these days with the club in good hands, stable and rising. Probably why we don't read posts from him anymore. A bloke you'd want in your corner rather than against you. Last I heard he was a Collingwood supporter. We don't hear from him because he was banned. @#$%&! him. tommi - tell him @#$%&! off from me. Then repeat it...he always did need to be told things multiple times.