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 Post subject: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:28 am 
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Mike Fitzpatrick

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After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:47 am 
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Last season is done.

Rich Geel was always going to be a tough start to the season, after a not great preseason. But the next 2 games are very doable.

Reckon we'll be 2.5 wins after rd 4, then Walsh comes back.

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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:00 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


Appreciate and respect the facts Paddy…..if you let go of the associated stories attached to those facts….what if the opposite was also true…..we were building resilience? Measuring ourselves against the best? Etc


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:01 pm 
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What if we simply aren't good enough?

Slow midfield.
Below par small forwards.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:12 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:

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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:21 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
What if we simply aren't good enough?

Slow midfield.
Below par small forwards.


So what do you think of Richmond who had more F50 entries and didn’t beat us?

Tigers scored same as us. What was it about their small forwards you admire? Maybe it wasn’t a game for small forwards.mit happens.

Does Walsh help with our run and carry?

Maybe we only play one small forward and find a different set up with quick medium size players. There’s trees for wood in the reserves and players returning from injury.

Charlie Cameron, Papley…. There’s not many like them. I agree we are carrying Owies and Fisher looking from the outside, and Durdin didn’t play in reserves but Inrate him higher than Owies and Fish

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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:29 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:


Mate you're the one who needs to settle the @#$%&! down.

I am merely throwing the stats out there and asking questions.

You don't know what my personal views are so settle the @#$%&! down.

I didn't think it was a capital crime to try and see both sides of the coin.
Crikey.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:36 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.
After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.
How do we reconcile that?


...and if we lose next week we'll have lost 1084 out of our last 2574 games! :yikes:

The only stat that grates me a wee bit is the inability to score in the final 9 minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:49 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:


Mate you're the one who needs to settle the @#$%&! down.

I am merely throwing the stats out there and asking questions.

You don't know what my personal views are so settle the @#$%&! down.

I didn't think it was a capital crime to try and see both sides of the coin.
Crikey.



I’m not cranky paddy :lol:

A lot of Carlton fans lost their shit after a game we should’ve lost but could’ve won.

I thought you were in despair with your tone. Have a look at the picture you’re painting?

I was merely pointing out you’re reading too much into it and looking for more ways for disappointment in your quest for reality. Ie the questions.

I offered another way to view your despondency.

Wasn’t that your personal view? I thought you pictured us as a team that needs to find a way to reconcile. I’m not sure there’s anything we need to reconcile after a draw in round 1. I thought I made that clear. Sorry if I didnt.

On the other hand rather than going at me, why not comment on my post….” Yeah maybe it’s too early to worry about a possible loss next week… “ and “ consider ing there’s another 20 games after Cats… we face xyz…”Much simpler and less antagonistic.

I could feel your pain. Maybe you’re not in pain. Sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:51 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?

For me, if we can keep the games with-in a kick or two for the last 10min we will find a way to win like the Pies did last year.
We will become more resilient and conditioned, especially if we can string a few wins together like this.
As scrappy and lucky we were with the Tigers inefficiency, we also had great pressure and defence last night.
We should've got smashed with the stats they had in their favour.
It is a step forward even though it doesn't feel that way.
As I said in the other threads, we need to work on our skills to hit targets, decisions on which targets to hit and build trust among the players.
Eventually this will bring the composure to shut teams out or tear them apart under all situations and pressure, finals stuff.
Next week will be tough, but it's good to get 2 top 8 teams first up.
It'll set the standard for the year.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:56 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


We could have a group cry-in.

Or we could be super competitive against Cats and then win the next 5 games playing against teams we should beat because wins against these sides are what will get us into the eight. Wins against the bigger boys will decide where we finish in the eight. Let's wait until round 7 because after that it will get really interesting.


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 Post subject: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:01 pm 
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Personally couldn’t give a shit.

It’s a new season.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:02 pm 
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Drunkening statistic: we haven't lost in the first 3 rounds of an AFL season since 2021. Party time!


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:28 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:


Mate you're the one who needs to settle the @#$%&! down.

I am merely throwing the stats out there and asking questions.

You don't know what my personal views are so settle the @#$%&! down.

I didn't think it was a capital crime to try and see both sides of the coin.
Crikey.

Paddy ………..thanks for clarifying that you’re not really sharing your personal views. I was getting myself confused by your collective posts that continue draw out the downside of our performances


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:11 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
What if we simply aren't good enough?

Slow midfield.
Below par small forwards.


Dude you've been on the warpath in almost every thread. It's not as "dark" as it seems - not by a long shot!

We'll click in the next month or so and watch out!!

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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:12 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:


Mate you're the one who needs to settle the @#$%&! down.

I am merely throwing the stats out there and asking questions.

You don't know what my personal views are so settle the @#$%&! down.

I didn't think it was a capital crime to try and see both sides of the coin.
Crikey.



You're merely throwing shit around, same as you did all night.

One game that we didn't lose and the sky is falling.

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 Post subject: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:12 pm 
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Those stats reflect that we dropped the ball against Adelaide, were outclassed by Brisbane and then brave but dumb and undermanned against Melbourne and Collingwood.
And then we were much improved but still a bit dumb and unlucky (Harry slipped) to draw against a rampant Richmond team that Hardwick called his best ever list.
Bottom line, we have the capability but cannot afford to take anything for granted and it is a game of inches - and we still need to genuinely grasp that at all levels of the footy department.


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:29 am 
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How many posts and threads are you gonna make with your negativity?


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 Post subject: Re: Sobering statistic
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:08 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
After last night, we have now gone 5 games straight without having a win, and we have only won 1 of our last 7 games.

After next week it could be 1 from our last 8 games.

How do we reconcile that?


So what.

Accountants can make numbers say whatever they like.

What it really says is…last year we were as good as the 2 Top 4 teams. This year we drew against a Top 4 favourite.
Therefore, we may not be good enough to be a top 4 team without Walsh, Hewitt, Kennedy, but worthy finalists with 21 more games to improve on last year and last night.

How can we reconcile 8-1? I don’t know, but it sounds like something the parasite Kane Cornes will bring up for attention when in fact season 2023 we are currently undefeated and next week we either have 2 points or 6 points with 20 games left. What is there to reconcile.

Get a grip Paddy. It’s round 1 FFS and you’re already slashing wrists :grin:


Mate you're the one who needs to settle the @#$%&! down.

I am merely throwing the stats out there and asking questions.

You don't know what my personal views are so settle the @#$%&! down.

I didn't think it was a capital crime to try and see both sides of the coin.
Crikey.



You're merely throwing shit around, same as you did all night.

One game that we didn't lose and the sky is falling.


The I50 count suggests we would have been very lucky to win that game, we were comprehensively beaten.

Let's see how we go on Thursday night. Hopefully by 11pm we aren't 1 from our last 8.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:31 pm 
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