really is that what you've been saying? Where have you written that?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

The question needs to be asked. What has Austin actually done?
We say we need more mids and take pot shots at SOS. SOS is the last person I'll defend, but who has Austin brought in?
Cerra for a top 10 pick and 3rd rounder. Jack Carroll who may or may not make it and a couple of wingers in Hollands and Binns. Have I missed anyone? There is Acres as a so called upgrade on Newnes. Anyone else?
Drated Cowan - HBF. MSD - Boyd - HBF. Cincotta - HBF.
Beyond that, Saad for a top 10 pick - HBF. Drafted some small forwards - Mots, Durds and late picks with some talls.
Where are the mids?
Where is the KP depth? Brought in Young, but lost Jones (not his fault).
What has happened to our TPP? For all of SOS' faults and there were many, he at least got that under control.
We are now allegedly bursting at the seams with our TPP for a side that is sitting 11th.
He has been here longer enough to start justifying his decisions and whether he has been a positive or negative.

Trade TDK for Stocker

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

When you got a guy who has collected over 3 million dollars and the club gives up 3 decent picks stick his arm out rather than put his body on the line it shits me
Does it shit you
Meanwhile the guys I mention play like they give a shit
It’sfucking embarrassing to me

I’ll keep banging on about it until the club stops overrating the list and recruiting overrated pea hearts like Mc Govern and Martin on long term lucrative contracts

Why don’t you write a poem about it

The club have shots themselves in the foot
To sign Pittonet for 4 years based on his output is ridiculous
But it’s bit like Lewis Young’s contract extension
Both these players are probably on $300000
It gives the salary cap a safety net
When you have Zac Williams on 850000 for another 3 years not to mention
Curnow
McKay
Cripps
Walsh
Weitering
Cerra
Saad
On big coin you are forced to give Young and Pittonet long term contracts on less money
Mirkov isn’t progressing
Too early to make a call on O’ Keefe
Really need TDK playing for the rest of the year to see where he is it

History shows many ruckman are recruited with late or rookie picks
Marshall
Dean Cox
Aaron Sandlilands
Another recruiting stuff up
By the club
And with Tassie coming in decisions like these are even more impactful in a negative sense

I didnt know about Hunter clark.

Pitto is not going to cut it, but great to have as a back up instead of Mirkov, at least in the short term.

If TDK wants out, he's going to cop it from the supporters. That's what he wants? That's what he'll get from his childhood team.

There's always the fact Carlton was TDK's and Sam's team growing up. Maybe that means something.

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You missed one important point.

Easy to control the PP when you make 44 changes to the list, mostly kids earning their 1st pay packets.

SOS said we will not be able to hold them all because of TPP.

In Teague's last year we were crying out for mids to support Cripps and Walsh.

Austin got us Hewett and Cerra. With the huge improvement in Kennedy, and expected improvement of Dow and Fisher, our midield gaps were covered with Ed in support.

I dont know why the blow torch is on Austin. Carroll was pick in the 40's, Boyd mid season...

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Just wanted to see if you would bite

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Key-oh!
Way to go.
Wants to give Brackets the old heave-ho.
Oh Key-oh!
Have a piddle-o
In Shane McAdam’s pockets.

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What are you going to do in retirement
Some blokes find it hard to adjust
I can give you a few tips if you like

What did you think of McGovern on the weekend
Seriously what did you think
What do you think about why we got him
What do you think about what we potentially gave up for him
What do you think about the money he has been on
What do you think about the clubs recruiting
What do you think about McAdams output compared to McGoverns
What do you think about the same tired old rhetoric coming from the captain the coach the head of football the President


Do you think?

What do you think about the clubs last 20 years

Gotta laugh

Great stuff TC: dannyboy, keogh Cru

Great entertainment whilst we are playing not as well as we should be.

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I will answer that.

Its spilt milk.
Get rid of him for a first rounder and I will be happy.
Last week sealed it for me. Gov looks like someone preserving his body

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I think he got a knock in the first quarter & that was the end of him.
For reals.
I think we got him because Harry & Charlie were missing big chunks of time and we needed a half forward that kicked well & could take a good contested mark. He’s ok at best in his current position.
I think we gave up too much in the trade.
I think the reports of what we paid him are way over the top & we still paid him too much.
I think the strategy has been better than the execution.
I think McAdam is pretty average.
I think they’re saying things for the sake of saying things, but that’s industry standard.

Sometimes, when I have to.

Poor, then exciting, then poor again. Now occasionally optimistic.

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You wouldn’t get a first rounder for McGovern
Not even West Coast would offer him that to play with his same overpaid brother

But because of the club’ s poor culture in relation to List Management one thing leads to another

I’m dead set against long term deals
Of the guys getting the big money at the moment only Charlie is worth it
McKays deal is ridiculous. Has one good season then is signed till 2030 on mega bucks
What that means is to balance the books you bring in guys like Acres for 3 on 350000
My guess is Pittonet and Young would be on 250000 to 300000 a year for 3 and 4 year’s respectively
So your keeping 2 average players that no other team wants and the likelihood is they will become long term list cloggers
One fuckup causes another @#$%&! up
Why would you extend Cowan’s and Hollands’ contract by 2 years after seeing them for a few games.
Make a call after 2 years. Because it’s called balancing the books
Sorry to sound like a broken record but when you recruit a HBF from another AFL club on 850000 over 6 with the hope that he becomes the running mid we need but it will never happen because he did it once in 113 games you deserve to have problems
It’s the messiah culture repeating itself over and over again
What compounds the problem further is Tassie coming on board in a few years and all the draft concessions they will get
The clubs List Managent is its main problem
Sacking the 6 previous coaches before their contract is up and nothing changes
Surely that tells even posters like Dannyboy and Crusader something

As for McAdam Crusader we can agree to disagree he is average
But no argument that he would be better than all the small forwards we have played and we had him for nothing. And he ain’t a squib
Pick 26,28
It rivals some of the worst deals in draft history

No need my publisher and I have 2 more novels planned (and 4 already written that will need to be published over the next 5 or so years) when I retire at the end of this year, then there is travel, plus my son wants to write a film with me and I thought I'd probably teach myself to play the piano, plus there is cooking, gardening etc...who knows maybe do a bit of acting again...I think I'll be fine without your help but thank you for the offer.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Right this minute, I'd like a fit McAdam to replace both Mots and Durdin.
Long term, I wouldnt entertain the thought.

I like the way Owies has developed.
His development is a lesson to all. It can be done.
We did it with Tuohy, Byrne and Setanta and Sheehan.

I dont blame the choice the List Manager made with Gov at the time.
I get it. I didnt think he was injury prone, flakey.
He is an amazing athlete, and great footballer. Can't trust his body anymore.
Bad luck.

But making a lot more bad choices is the point keogh is making, and that's why its the whole that stinks and why he keep reiterating Govs name, whose just a part of the whole, to remind, and convince us, he was right.

IF Silvagni had a few more wins with those first round picks, keogh wouldnt be focussing on the Gov trade, just Gov, and that's really what its all about for me. but I get you keogh.

Right this minute, Govs a dud, but I do remember that hit Crusader mentioned. I'll give him a chance for that. Gov stays, hold on Kemp.

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Come and visit me in Sydney.
I'd rather hear about the film and the books, and the great Carlton stories, plus you can cook. I have kitchens, not just a kitchen. We've got a keyboard, and gardens, and trees, and hedges you can trim, and surfing and pools and Carlton games to view on all levels. How much do you want to pay?

Carlton is still building.
Carlton is not winning the flag this year.
We have foundations, which we've missed in the last 22 years.
Doesnt take long to turn this around, and it will happen.

In the meantime..what were we saying about books and film and cooking and life. Life is big.

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