Stop it, rob.
Now that is a depressing thought.

Love us to retry the Irish market, and try and pick up another quick medium type. Not sure why we stopped.

Heaps of them seem to get homesick and go back.

It's still too soon.

He can kick, too. And his tackling!

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We probably would've still got Stocker without the trade TBH.

After the way we treated Zac, I doubt any will want to come.

I jeep thinking the same thing every time I read or hear an Irish footballer at a Cat B: free hit.

We had a few at Carlton over a couple periods.

We are well known as a destination club for the Irish since the O'hAlpin boys came over.
We are just not entertaining the idea. Soft Salary cap issue? Shouldnt be.

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It’s not a cheap exercise. But you’re right, that shouldn’t be an issue.

Something is a bit rotten in our Footy Dept spending.

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The long list of injuries masked the problem with the list and hence we went to the draft and brought in only Arces last year . Most people thought getting players back would result in natural progression and improvement but another bank of injuries and players stagnating has exposed the team.
Writing was on the wall there are a bunch of players that have peaked in performance and were not going to improve enough for us to move forward - OBrien, Dow , Fisher , Fogarty were not suddenly going to lift their games to next level. TDK has been disappointing but can improve- Kennedy , Hewitt, Doc , Cripps, Walsh, Weiters, McGovern, JSOS ,Charlie, Harry ,Newman ,Pitto all these players are as good as they will ever be and not going to improve to take us to the next level.
They could not possibly expected that Martin ,Marchbank Cunningham and Williams would have been relied on to play out the season.
They needed to bring in players that can contribute straight away if they wanted to impact finals and they didn't .
Like most I thought get players back and fit and happy days but they need to be more brutal and not allow players like Fisher , JSOS , Obrien and Dow to get to 60-100 games playing the level they have and hoping they will improve as it very rarely happens - 30-50 games in you know what you have its not getting much better particularly with Mid sized players - Sure it happens but it is rare

They stuffed this on a bunch of gunner be goods and should have taken steps to address several issues ont eh list not just add a ball butchering wingman

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As far as Cat B rookies go - Jake Reed, the ex Victorian paceman is looking to get a spot on a list. Had good hype as a junior.

Geelong maybe.

He’s only 32.

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Apologies - wrong Victorian quick - Zak Evans is the one that's likely to get called up (only 23). Played with Ben Silvagni at Xavier too, so we'd have almost certainly picked him had he nominated AFL over cricket.

Jake Reed is killing it in the local leagues apparently - but yes, that ship has sailed.

Did we really just sign Pitto for 4 years?

flower a duck.

TDK should go.

He's not a Grundy or Gawn but he's a decent ruck, he just needs another younger talent to back him up.
TDK is yet to show he can ruck properly.........the jury is still out to whether he even can.
I'm happy with his re-signing.

How much salary space is Pitto taking? Not much for a No 1 ruck, and for 4 years.

Now we have him locked in, we should look for the next No 1 ruck.

Must decide if TDK will develop into a ruckman or as a CHB, and lets find out and try and expedite his development. He's mature now, and we will see improvement.

If TDK is to be our No 1 ruck, then a Forweard-ruck is what we need if that's not going to be TDK. SOS isnt the answer. Kemp isnt the answer. We need a threatening ruck who can take contested marks and does kick goals

I'd like someone to point out a good ruck target, one who is gettable, than dismissing Pitto without one.

Imagine for a minute what it would be like if Pitto decided not to sign on. We'd be in big shit hoping TDK, Jack and Mirkov will do the job. Then we'd be desperate to keep TDK and possibly put ourselves in the position we could find ourselves held for ransom.

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4 years is a bit surprising, but surely he won't be on much? $200-300k max per season?

At that price, I don't have an issue with it. We have no backup, and TDK is looking like walking.

Do we chase another tall defender and play Lewis Young in a tandem ruck role ?

Just putting it out there

He can catch a ball ... imagine that in short bursts up forward

Played cricket with Zak, there was plenty of chat about his footballing prowess too. Great kid with a great attitude, will make it if that’s what he wants

Tom likely wants to go and play with his best mate in Hunter Clark - so the SOS and Ross influence here is only half the equation. What we want back from the Saints is the unknown quantity, but having the 'best mate' scenario means that when Robbie D'Orazio says "we're prepared to put Tom in the draft" we know that's not true and we hold the upper hand. Personally I'd want to get some value that could go towards us getting a ruckman. Pittonet just isn't going to cut it.

Spot on
Not to mention picks like Mullett Kerridge Fasolo
No players from the lower leagues
If you look at the Pies
Noble West Adelaide Johnson Sturt both mid season picks
Mihocek pick 22 rookie draft Port Melbourne
Who do we select guys like Deluca
Collingwood have got guys from other AFL clubs like Frampton to fill some gaps but you can do that when you have depth
As I have said compared to other AFL clubs our recruiting trading and List Management has been shit