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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:48 pm 
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Also, we may have been only 4th or 5th worst for injuries BUT we lost our whole backline at one time



Apart from West Coast who was hit harder than us?

Don’t think anyone really. We played the equal most players (37) along with West Coast I believe. GWS ended up with a pretty bad injury list but absolutely no team that was remotely good had an injury list that compares to ours.


Not when the whips were cracking either. Scrub teams would have had 10 or 12 on it once they had thrown in the finals towel and put everyone in for surgery, but ours were all through the meat of the season.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:03 pm 
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put a giant poster of collingwood players celebrating and carlton players on the floor in our training rooms during preseason a reminder ,pain we have long way to go ,do not get sucked in by coll/melb games.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:14 pm 
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Some other points that occurred to me........

88,000+ members
The Crowd noise at games has been awesome
A President we never hear from
A CEO we rarely hear from
A Board we never hear from
A Coach that spoke brilliantly all year, win or lose. Polite, Civil, Calm, Measured and above all Focused
A Coaching group that all appear to be on the same page
No-one within the club embarrassed the Club in 2022.
The Media was generally positive all year.
Icon Park is looking great with the new construction humming along.
The Club is Financially stable
The Club's Salary Cap appears to be in a good place
Signing Charlie and Crippa long term
The External noise from disgruntled supporters in assorted Coterie Groups appears to be Zero
No sneaky leakers

It's becoming a Club we can be proud of again. Thanks to The Pres, CEO and Coach.

Regards Cazzesman

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:39 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Some other points that occurred to me........

88,000+ members
The Crowd noise at games has been awesome
A President we never hear from
A CEO we rarely hear from
A Board we never hear from
A Coach that spoke brilliantly all year, win or lose. Polite, Civil, Calm, Measured and above all Focused
A Coaching group that all appear to be on the same page
No-one within the club embarrassed the Club in 2022.
The Media was generally positive all year.
Icon Park is looking great with the new construction humming along.
The Club is Financially stable
The Club's Salary Cap appears to be in a good place
Signing Charlie and Crippa long term
The External noise from disgruntled supporters in assorted Coterie Groups appears to be Zero
No sneaky leakers

It's becoming a Club we can be proud of again. Thanks to The Pres, CEO and Coach.

Regards Cazzesman


CEO's aim was to win more games than we lost.
The song is back, and its a song most enjoy to sing, Carltonians or not.
Walsh signed a 4 year extension to 2026 this year
GWS hoodoo ... gone
Tigers hoodoo ... gone
We were the youngest team 16/22 games
No player over 30yo represented the teams this year.
27yo Cripps and 28yo Docherty our oldest players to play this year.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:41 pm 
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Sorry to pull you off... I mean up... there bonders, but our oldest rep this year was Newman who is 29y7m old. Newnes next oldest. Saad 28, Plow, Gov, Williams, Martin all 27 but fractionally older than Crippa ;)

https://www.draftguru.com.au/lists/2022/carlton

But I agree that our age profile is really good for the next 3 years or more.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:58 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Some other points that occurred to me........

88,000+ members
The Crowd noise at games has been awesome
A President we never hear from
A CEO we rarely hear from
A Board we never hear from
A Coach that spoke brilliantly all year, win or lose. Polite, Civil, Calm, Measured and above all Focused
A Coaching group that all appear to be on the same page
No-one within the club embarrassed the Club in 2022.
The Media was generally positive all year.
Icon Park is looking great with the new construction humming along.
The Club is Financially stable
The Club's Salary Cap appears to be in a good place
Signing Charlie and Crippa long term
The External noise from disgruntled supporters in assorted Coterie Groups appears to be Zero
No sneaky leakers

It's becoming a Club we can be proud of again. Thanks to The Pres, CEO and Coach.

Regards Cazzesman


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Great post.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:23 pm 
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Agree nailed it Cazz old boy :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:34 pm 
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Having to gain my football enjoyment by vicariously death riding * again - check!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:31 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
Sorry to pull you off... I mean up... there bonders, but our oldest rep this year was Newman who is 29y7m old. Newnes next oldest. Saad 28, Plow, Gov, Williams, Martin all 27 but fractionally older than Crippa ;)

https://www.draftguru.com.au/lists/2022/carlton

But I agree that our age profile is really good for the next 3 years or more.



:lol: :lol: :lol: I got a bit excited and was looking at the round 23 team and thinking about the profile without Ed Curnow, who didnt play.

I doubt Newman and Newnes will be anything but depth next year.

Yes Martin doesnt give me any excuses.

I can't get over the flatness I am experiencing with football...I have no interest...tried AFLW....nah, not for me. 18 teams 10 rounds, and not much to get excited about TBH.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:56 am 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
put a giant poster of collingwood players celebrating and carlton players on the floor in our training rooms during preseason a reminder ,pain we have long way to go ,do not get sucked in by coll/melb games.
Also include WBD celebrating us losing.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:13 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Some other points that occurred to me........

88,000+ members
The Crowd noise at games has been awesome
A President we never hear from
A CEO we rarely hear from
A Board we never hear from
A Coach that spoke brilliantly all year, win or lose. Polite, Civil, Calm, Measured and above all Focused
A Coaching group that all appear to be on the same page
No-one within the club embarrassed the Club in 2022.
The Media was generally positive all year.
Icon Park is looking great with the new construction humming along.
The Club is Financially stable
The Club's Salary Cap appears to be in a good place
Signing Charlie and Crippa long term
The External noise from disgruntled supporters in assorted Coterie Groups appears to be Zero
No sneaky leakers

It's becoming a Club we can be proud of again. Thanks to The Pres, CEO and Coach.

Regards Cazzesman


Succinctly put and agree totally , it’s been an exciting and important year of achievements for our club.
We’ve regained, our poise , respect and standing as one of the important foundation Clubs , much has been restored. It’s onwards and upwards, our decades of pain and uncertainty are behind us.
Go Baggers.
List management & development remains as on going main focus , important always.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:16 pm 
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yes on the opposite side of the fence we are flying fantastic,members,president,game crowds awesome ,but were it counts the most ON THE FIELD we need the most attention ,hopefully Austin can find some gems.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:17 am 
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6/10

Positive
- club unity on and off
- contested brand of football
- we have serious top end talent

Negative
- 4 losses in a month when it mattered most
- excuses about injuries when the core issue is depth

I believe we are on the right track. Interesting off season;
1) how the list unfolds
2) how our game plan evolves
3) how much we mature as a result of the last month


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:36 am 
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london blue wrote:
6/10

Positive
- club unity on and off
- contested brand of football
- we have serious top end talent

Negative
- 4 losses in a month when it mattered most
- excuses about injuries when the core issue is depth

I believe we are on the right track. Interesting off season;
1) how the list unfolds
2) how our game plan evolves
3) how much we mature as a result of the last month


If any other team had the injury list we had, specifically to ‘key’ players such as ours, they wouldn’t be finishing even 9th.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:54 am 
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Yeah, I agree. Our depth is as good as most.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:34 pm 
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I think it's better to under achieve and finish 9th than over achieve and finish in the same spot.

We had a reasonably tough fixture, played 3 top 8 teams twice, last month was 3 games against top 4-5 and 2 away games in a row.
If we'd played say Norf and WC x2 and finished 9th I think we'd be flattering ourselves for next year.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:16 pm 
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I also think if we made the 8 and pinched a win or had an honourable loss the team would be complacent as usual and think they've achieved something before next season.

Hopefully this pain and hurt finally gets the message through to the players that every single moment counts and they must give 100% every. Single. Time.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:05 pm 
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No one will ever convince me that missing the finals, especially the way we managed to do it, is more beneficial than making it... even if it means a first round exit.

You make it and anything is possible... hell, we may have equaled our epic 3 points from a prelm season

Crippa is 28 next year... we can't afford to waste such valuable (finals) experience

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:26 pm 
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St Kilda won a final in 2020 and look where that got them?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:33 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
St Kilda won a final in 2020 and look where that got them?

Same with us in 2011 and 2013.

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