agree. but lots of hard questions need to be asked by coaching staff about our continual brian fades.

that’s something that can be solved pretty easily if the club devotes classroom time for educating our players, not just a regular reviews of the game. i’m talking about classroom time devoted to proactively educating in the mathematics of decision making. i’m happy to volunteer my time if they can’t find someone to lead it would think Diesel or Hamill would know a thing or too about it. Voss the player was always surrounded by elite talent so maybe he never needed to learn about it?

they need to understand the laws of probability and how and why to do what’s required in different contexts. footy can be a simple game when you have the gods on your side, they need to learn method for when it’s not all going our way and fighting to win back momentum from the opposition. taking the heat out of it. maintaining possession without risking turnovers in the D50. that kind of unsexy stuff.

maybe it was written in the stars that we’d not make finals. the bulldogs coming from 18 points down to win by just enough to get us on percentage is super-spooky. but we had lots of opportunities this season to at least make top eight if not too four and go deep into finals, i don’t brink we are that good playing together yet for a start and the bottom players in our team and even some of the stars of our team
still have inconsistency to overcome.

2023 will be much brighter i promise you all. we’ve come a long way tis season no matter how much this hurts. and it hurts me too. my body feels physically bruised with the pain of it.


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who? Hawks possibly? who else. please don’t say Essendon*. we played well against top four teams at the business end of the season, well enough to win but we don’t have the full game plan together yet. ., the only bad performance was against Geelong, never in it and against Brisbane we were too inconsistent.


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any elected Rucks out of contract or free-agency player status?!

what we’d give for a young tall forward who can kick straight consistently, richmond, bulldogs, pies all picked one up at straight from the draft!


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I think Effes makes a good point Deez in that the footy wheel never stops turning and that everybody is on it not just us . No one stands still . You have to move forward just to maintain your current spot .

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agree. disappointment cannot be allowed to become learned hopelessness.


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Thought the same thing

I remember seeing the little turd sitting on the bench with his hammy iced up

Any of our players would have missed 1-2 weeks

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ive said as much during the season. Sticks wasn’t always on song but he knew when the team needed one and made sure if it. H is almost the opposite in that regard. the deflation and momentum swings after he takes a big grab and then misses a very gettable goal, often with a snap from the wrong spot for a snap, is just painful for all concerned. Charlie is either hot or cold in front of goals. hopefully. they both mature and are prepared to learn that they don’t know everything yet.


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Dennis the Menace .

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i think it’s more about ingrained method and (bad) habits and inexplicably bad decision making than shitting themselves. i know for some people that ends up as choking either way. but it’s not about then being “tougher” i suspect what they need to have is classroom based education and cognitive training sessions galore from now on. the end of the second ate and third showed lots of guts. 2021 blues would have crumpled into a 60 point loss.


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what software predicted the 84 blues v 62 pies? was it at three ate time?


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Setterfield was named on AFL game summary as one of caletons best. just sayin.


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Every time we have had a shot at making finals late in a season the last few years we have choked up the last qtr. 2020, under Teague, we were a real red hot chance. 4 games from the end we led at 3/4 time against the Pies and fell apart in the last qtr, 5 days later, 15pts up at 3/4 time against GWS and s hit our pants. We won the next game. If we won those other 2 we would have been game and percentage inside the 8 with 2 games to go. Come 2022 and that s hit still hasn't been sorted.

If we actually learn from this it could a real good thing going forward. Will we or will we be the same old Carlton? We have a reputation now for choking. Sides will always think they are in the game now against us.

Yeah jim, I'm not at all confident that the "learnings" (wtf kind of word is that, anyway?) will produce the desired outcome. Like you say, we've had ample chokes in our recent history to learn from. At what point does choking just become an integral part of the club? Probably 2020, indeed.

That graph shows that Pies converted every opportunity from inside 40. We missed half.

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This is not a post match discussion.

This is a post mortem.

There is always next year. It was Voss's first year on the job. I have said it before. How many years before bomber Thompson got it right, or Hardwick, or the good stuff Goodwin.

We had 9 running first 18 players either out or suspected of carrying an injury (on my count) and others who did not make the team because they have not realised their potential eg Honey, Kemp.

I harp on it. Get 'em fit.

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The early season game on the humid Gold Coast also a loss.

This is madness. Yes it's one moment in the game but still...

https://twitter.com/MitchKeat/status/15 ... 2577344512

Darcy Moore is back as a spare, Cameron is back as a spare.

Durdin is on his own.

What does Charlie do? Bombs it long to the two spares.

Watch the rest of the clip for how disorganised Carlton were behind the ball.

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To me that was so much worse than the kick to the pocket a short time later. You could see the other one was just a breakdown in communciation between the leading player and the kicker. This one from Charles was just an up and under hoof. I don't want them to take the joy out of his game - but I really hope he actually does some video review of this (and other) moments which killed us.

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Left wing moralists
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They shit me no end

Happened way back in 2020 too when we choked up last qtrs against Collingwood and GWS in consecutive games when wins would have got us into the 8 comfortably. 2022 and nothing has changed, nothing learnt. What is with our leaders in such situations?