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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:06 pm 
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He should have walked in and introduced himself as Trent Cotchin.


Tribunal panel would’ve said “what a surprise to see you here Trent, are you lost” and ordered a limo to take him home.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:18 pm 
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I TIPPED THIS




Just the tip…?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:37 pm 
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As I said in unpopular opinions I think the tribunal got it right. Apparently the only one on TC who thinks so.

Cripps had no hope of taking the mark but still jumped into the guy.

I know I am naive in playing it fair when other players get the benefit of the doubt when there is no doubt such as the aforementioned Cotchin.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:03 am 
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This is on Gil.

How the @#$%&! this stupid spiv is still running the league is beyond me.

Michael Christian?

Decisions now have no relationship to each other.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:37 am 
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I don't have a problem with the term careless being used. Struggling to reconcile that you can have eyes on the ball and contesting and it be considered a bump

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:37 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
As I said in unpopular opinions I think the tribunal got it right. Apparently the only one on TC who thinks so.

Cripps had no hope of taking the mark but still jumped into the guy.

I know I am naive in playing it fair when other players get the benefit of the doubt when there is no doubt such as the aforementioned Cotchin.


I agree with you Teddy. What gets me though is the inconsistency. Rioli should not have got off but 2 wrongs don't make a right I guess. The other thing given his prior clean record and no idea if that is considered, he should've been offered 1 week.
Wonder what peoples thoughts would be if someone did that to Sam Walsh?


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Prior records used to be considered. Not sure if they still are these days?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:19 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
As I said in unpopular opinions I think the tribunal got it right. Apparently the only one on TC who thinks so.

Cripps had no hope of taking the mark but still jumped into the guy.

I know I am naive in playing it fair when other players get the benefit of the doubt when there is no doubt such as the aforementioned Cotchin.
I didn't think there was grounds for challenge/appeal. I don't think they got it right because the outcome based assessment is basically a raffle.

But this is in line with the world we live in where the intent of what you say is irrelevant if someone chooses to take offence.

As soon as it happened it was always going to be 2 weeks, and as I said in the match day thread if it were Dayne Zorko knocking out Motlop we'd have wanted weeks.

All that said, if I were implementing the rules that gets clearly filed under 'football accident in a collision sport'

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:23 am 
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But this is in line with the world we live in where the intent of what you say is irrelevant if someone chooses to take offence.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:24 am 
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I'm not a fan of this "outcome based" thing either.
Does that mean if 2 players go for the ball under any circumstances and one ends up concussed as a result, it is automatically 2 weeks?
If good bloke Hodgey fractured Murph's cheekbone in the exact same incident he did a few years back, (putting aside the fact that he is a good bloke) would he now automatically get weeks because of the outcome?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:24 am 
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missnaut wrote:
Prior records used to be considered. Not sure if they still are these days?


You may be right and it is no longer a consideration.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:27 am 
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I didn't think there was grounds for challenge/appeal. I don't think they got it right because the outcome based assessment is basically a raffle.


If Ah Chee gets up and plays on it becomes "a good hard contest between two committed players".

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:30 am 
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rhino27 wrote:
I'm not a fan of this "outcome based" thing either.
Does that mean if 2 players go for the ball under any circumstances and one ends up concussed as a result, it is automatically 2 weeks?


The AFL is pissing its pants about potential future litigation arising from CTE, so pretty much yes, like Plowman on O'Meara.


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If good bloke Hodgey fractured Murph's cheekbone in the exact same incident he did a few years back, (putting aside the fact that he is a good bloke) would he now automatically get weeks because of the outcome?


Good Bloke discount still applies to certain players.
See Cotchin, Trent.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:44 am 
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Have to appeal.

No understanding of football by the Match review Peanut or Tribunal
Glesson said that while Cripps was looking at the ball only and was contesting the ball, in his peripheral vision he should been aware of Ah Chee and the decision to rotate the body was unreasonable.
That is a completey ridiculous statement with no basis of reality.
If we are now expecting players to process what is in their peripheral vision and adjust according to that, it's not a human sport anymore. We need to develop droids ASAP.

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Wojee wrote:
bluehammer wrote:
I didn't think there was grounds for challenge/appeal. I don't think they got it right because the outcome based assessment is basically a raffle.


If Ah Chee gets up and plays on it becomes "a good hard contest between two committed players".
Yes, that's what I'm trying to say with my bad writing ability Woj

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:54 am 
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Bullshit result.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:11 pm 
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Do we have another avenue of appeal or is that it??


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:18 pm 
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Yes we can - AFL has extended deadline for us to decide to 5:30 PM according to SEN.

On what grounds can we appeal and is it realistic?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:36 pm 
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Ah chee was equally responsible for the collision.

He came in from the side, whilst Cripps was going for the ball.

No way would I want Cripps to avoid the contest and just let Ah Chee have the ball without a challenge.

What a ridiculous decision.

In light of the Rioli collision, it doesnt matter what you call it, mark or catch. The same thing was happening in this case, where both players were trying to catch the ball.

In fact, you can see Cripps had more purchase and got the the BALL before Ah Chee.

The point is, Au Chee equally was the cause of the collision. Precedence, not just Rioli case, says so.

I am appalled at the inconsistencies of the MRP, the inconsistencies of the AFL and what they are doing to destroy the fabric of the game.

To those few who think the decision was correct, because they thought Rioli case was adjudicated wrong, tell me, honestly, in your expert opinion, what you expected Cripps to do?

Of course there was going to be a collision, we know that, there's collisions going on every minute.

I also believe the decision on the Appeal was already made before the case was heard, because the resoning of the decision makes no sense, nor is it relevant, because it can't be proved. Doesn't innocense have a place in governance in the AFL. What about his previous record proving he doesnt play with mallice? Corrupt AFL is all I put it too.

The Anti Carlton mob running the AFL have had their way again....20 years of this and I'm sick of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:37 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Yes we can - AFL has extended deadline for us to decide to 5:30 PM according to SEN.

On what grounds can we appeal and is it realistic?



There's no proof. Just opinions.

Innocent until proven guilty. He doesnt have a record of violence. He's a ball winner and ball extractor.

Ah Chee was equally responsible for the collision.

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