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Author: | bondiblue [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
diesel95 wrote: keogh wrote: bondiblue wrote: keogh wrote: I thought we were a good chance until Kennedy and Hewett were out Our one wood has been are clearence work Hewett has been sorely missed Walsh was targeted today He gave his all but didn’t cause significant damage It was game over there and then Brisbane are not a top side as the year has panned out They are crap when the opposition have the ball. They give away too many easy goals in succession as what happened today Problem was they controlled the game for most of it Centre clearences were a smashing That’s my knock on Cerra He needed to step up He didn’t Cripps and Walsh did most of it I thought Dow was extremely disappointing Expected more We have given him a contract in 2023 Maybe premature I under estimated how much we rely on clearing work We are too slow through the middle Very one paced I have advocated Saad having a different role further up the ground To me it’s a necessity I really like Durdin playing a mid field role in 2023 I like Carroll Kemp Honey as well But we still have too many average players and deadwood Speaking of which I never rated Setterfield from the beginning as you know He needs to go. Has been tried in different positions other than the inside mid he was meant to be Time to go If we want to succeed we must be ruthless with List Management He clearly isn’t good enough Jack Martin is the ultimate pea heart Convince me otherwise He simply doesn’t do enough Has 2 years left. He needs to earn his spot. I get the fact the cupboard is bare with injuries it he didn’t do much in the magoos last week Mc Governs stats look ok but he is a very disappointing player for what we gave up That effort in the goal square when we had a small chance in the last was absu pathetic Add Williams to that list of overpaid overrated players Voss in his second year needs to make these guys earn their spot I honestly believe Kemp should be in the team at the exp of The Gov Still happy There has been improvement but our short comings are becoming more obvious as the season draws to a close Williamson Mc Donald Setterfield Hayes Newnes Parks Fogarty All need to go And the recruiting needs to be spot on Have a look at what Collingwood has done this year 6 players from Rookie picks or mid season drafts plus sim excellent late picks in the draft We still may make the eight and it’s great we have improved but clearly plenty of work needs to be done Fair call Keogh I don’t agree re Cerra and Gov. Cerra was one of our best all game. Tried his guts out. Top 5 Blues players. We need more than 3 mids Cripps Walsh Cerra Backline was good for most of game considering how many inside 50, So they had…must’ve been close to 60 Cerra needs to be better in close He wasn’t bad today but with Hewett and Kennedy out and Walsh having an average day by his standards he needed to take that next step He didn’t And he is still young But today was a chance to do at when the stakes were high We gave up a lot to get him McGovern is a very one dimensional footballer That effort in the last was so bad at such a crucial stage Pathetic second effort Near enough is good enough commentators were saying Crippa and Walsh were double teamed all day to make sure we didn’t get damaging ball movement. without Kennedy and Hewitt they can afford to do that to us. if those two had have been playing, even without winning HOs those two would have carved them up and they wouldn’t have been able to maintain a double tag on walsh and Cripps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lions effectively stifled our supply at the centre bounce. Walsh got his possessions outside of that area. |
Author: | bondiblue [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
diesel95 wrote: Crusader wrote: cortez wrote: We've given away too many top draft picks (and too much money) for over rated, injury prone duds. We’ve given away two picks for Saad & Cerra. the media were calling these trades plus Hewitt the trades of the year during the bye. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I haven't forgotten that. Cerra played an inside outside role back then. He would win the ball, and despite being tackled and taking on the tackle he offloaded it more than not to Kennedy or Hewett. Now he's playing 15% wing, 20% forward..... Problem now, is with Pitto in the ruck Cerra has a 50-50 chance to win the ground ball, but who is he going to offload it too? LOB? Setterfield? Dow? I hope it all works out for them this weekend. As BV said, an opportunity presents. |
Author: | Crusader [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
diesel95 wrote: Crusader wrote: cortez wrote: We've given away too many top draft picks (and too much money) for over rated, injury prone duds. We’ve given away two picks for Saad & Cerra. the media were calling these trades plus Hewitt the trades of the year during the bye. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They still are the trades of the year. |
Author: | diesel95 [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
bondiblue wrote: diesel95 wrote: Crusader wrote: cortez wrote: We've given away too many top draft picks (and too much money) for over rated, injury prone duds. We’ve given away two picks for Saad & Cerra. the media were calling these trades plus Hewitt the trades of the year during the bye. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I haven't forgotten that. Cerra played an inside outside role back then. He would win the ball, and despite being tackled and taking on the tackle he offloaded it more than not to Kennedy or Hewett. Now he's playing 15% wing, 20% forward..... Problem now, is with Pitto in the ruck Cerra has a 50-50 chance to win the ground ball, but who is he going to offload it too? LOB? Setterfield? Dow? I hope it all works out for them this weekend. As BV said, an opportunity presents. those guys will offer him the one two, like it or not. setters has had great disposal efficacy in the VFL. like i said elsewhere, him and a few others need cognitive training tools to make faster decisions. they’re decent ball users if they have the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | keogh [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
Atkins playedHBF but out of necessity Scott had to get more grunt into the middle particularly after last years PF Laird was tried in the middle out of necessity Look what happened So what does Voss do this weekend Our 3 best clearance players are missing Walsh and Cerra arnt great clearance players and we are slow around the ground Saad and Durdin need to play around the contest They have genuine speed I would play Charlie in there too this weekend Move McGovern up forward He might snag a couple out of his arse and H may play better as number one Bring in Kemp to play back And Owies to play as an inside mid Bottom line Voss can’t play safe So what would you do BV Cerra and Walsh and Pitto arntgoing to get it done for us We have to try some radical positional changes otherwise by by 2022 Saad is good at what he does although his last 2 weeks have been crap Opposition teams have worked him out by tagging him or playing a player of similar pace A change of scenery would help And he is one dimensional |
Author: | diesel95 [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
on the bright side we ran Brisbane Lions into some form to take into their Saints clash. |
Author: | jpulice1969 [ Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
for years we nave been slow ,need speed from defence we have saad and ? Nick Austin time |
Author: | bondiblue [ Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
keogh wrote: Atkins playedHBF but out of necessity Scott had to get more grunt into the middle particularly after last years PF Laird was tried in the middle out of necessity Look what happened So what does Voss do this weekend Our 3 best clearance players are missing Walsh and Cerra arnt great clearance players and we are slow around the ground ??? Saad and Durdin need to play around the contest They have genuine speed I would play Charlie in there too this weekend Move McGovern up forward He might snag a couple out of his arse and H may play better as number one Bring in Kemp to play back And Owies to play as an inside mid Bottom line Voss can’t play safe So what would you do BV Cerra and Walsh and Pitto arntgoing to get it done for us alone We have to try some radical positional changes otherwise by by 2022 Saad is good at what he does although his last 2 weeks have been crap Opposition teams have worked him out by tagging him or playing a player of similar pace A change of scenery would help And he is one dimensional I like this. We have a huge challenge on our hands Not sure about your commentary around Cerra and Walsh.... go back to round 1 for Cerra when he was playing midfield 100%...and Walsh...you have doubts? Anyway its time we try stuff. I dont rate Owies. I'd rather have McAdam. |
Author: | Wojee [ Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
Eric Hipwood's neck length to shoulder width ratio is insane. |
Author: | bluehammer [ Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:51 am ] |
Post subject: | R21: Brisbane Vs Carlton (Post match discussion) |
Yep I measure it at 0.76deLucas |
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