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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 pm 
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Blicavs was straight up cheating on Saturday night. It’s against the rules to block your opponent with your back to the ball.

All. @#$%&!. Night.

He’s 2m tall for Christmas sake. He’s in an unusual position. How could they not see what he was doing?

At least the rest of the comp have the decency to shepherd or hold him at the contest.





Did you not see that #22 Nathan “The Cheat” Williamson was umpiring.

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Whats wrong with our Skipper ? Reckon a better question is whats wrong with everybody coz they have all dropped off . Reckon the answer rests with our opponents coz they have put us under the microscope and have done a bit of homework . Reckon it is up to us now to come up with a bit of a tweak to our strategies . Nothing massive , just a bit of adjustments . You can talk about Cripps being taken out of the game but i reckon the Cats focus on Doc and Saad did as much damage after all our other midfielders did OK ................nah , i wouldn't be putting it all on the skipper coz his shoulders are only so wide .

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:17 pm 
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Whats wrong with our Skipper ? Reckon a better question is whats wrong with everybody coz they have all dropped off . Reckon the answer rests with our opponents coz they have put us under the microscope and have done a bit of homework . Reckon it is up to us now to come up with a bit of a tweak to our strategies . Nothing massive , just a bit of adjustments . You can talk about Cripps being taken out of the game but i reckon the Cats focus on Doc and Saad did as much damage after all our other midfielders did OK ................nah , i wouldn't be putting it all on the skipper coz his shoulders are only so wide .


Agreed Cats took out the other weapon that of our half backs but Cripps has been down for months now whereas Doc and Saad rarely put in a poor game.

But yes Cripps wasn;'t alone on the weekend.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:24 pm 
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I have no idea but I suspect he might be playing injured/sore once again

How else can one explain his drop off in form?

I mean he was absolutely lighting it up in the first half dozen or so games

Maybe missing Pitto hurts. As well as TDK has been it has taken time for him to get into the groove and Cripps has had to do a bit of ruck work and maybe having just 1 ruck and not your starting ruck messes with the entire centre square /stoppage set up.

Also suspect other teams have figured out our centre square /stoppage strategy and we have had to adjust / re-align

I ought to add I create this thread not to bash Cripps nor to say we rely on one person cause I think we all know it is a team game but equally the game on the weekend showed I think how important leadership is in a team and really none of our leaders bar the young Walsh had games they can be proud of.

Leadership anyone? Please come forward and step up to the plate.


This…imo…all the above.

Hate it when he’s in the ruck.

Was in SOS or Cripps who was suppose to go in the ruck against Hawkins? Nuff said.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:25 pm 
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Pitto factor

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:25 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Pitto factor


Big part of it plus needs to stop trying to do so much. He's an inside bull that feeds it out. Improvement in our wings will help as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:33 am 
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No Pitto for majority of the season.

No Harry for 5-6 weeks.

Opposition putting more effort into him.

Most players are sore by this stage.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:35 am 
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I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:42 am 
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missnaut wrote:
No Pitto for majority of the season.

No Harry for 5-6 weeks.

Opposition putting more effort into him.

Most players are sore by this stage.



I think these points ring very true, especially the last one. A young side learning what it takes to be a serious contender. This part of the year is plain hard work, when the body is sore, the weather cold and there is still a long way to go to finals.


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GMCbris wrote:
I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

G


Yep , chuck Cripps forward . He is a beast down there .

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:46 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
GMCbris wrote:
I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

G


Yep , chuck Cripps forward . He is a beast down there .


This week we could have McKay TDK Curnow Silvagni Cripps up forward. Hope they mark it


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:10 pm 
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id actually think Cripps forward isnt horrible, out of the square etc.. mckay to play CHF ...

but only if, Curnow goes to the wing, i cant help but feel he would go beserk (koutaesque) ... but then back to the forward line when cripps is out ..

we have a real danger of too many talls in our forward line, especially with Pitto back and TDK floating forward, that could be one way to cycle the talls through, yet still give us something ...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:14 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
GMCbris wrote:
I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

G


Yep , chuck Cripps forward . He is a beast down there .


…and Cripps has to wait for Cripps the inside mid beast to get the ball to the other mids.

I don’t think Cripps is that smart. He has to work it out how to beat Blicavs. Wack him with a tummy tap, Call out the umpire when Blicavs isn’t watching the ball, get a team mate to run through him from the opposite.

Why should we take out our No.1 inside mid from the midfield. There’s something wrong with that idea.

Selwood gets tagged, but the tough little bugger still wins the ball and dishes it out quick to closest team mate.

Sure, Cripps should sneak forward for a mismatch.

But with Pitto back and Harry Charlie and TDK forward, there’s enough fire power down there.

He just has to be better, or he’s not as tough as some make out. HTFU captain.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:20 pm 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
id actually think Cripps forward isnt horrible, out of the square etc.. mckay to play CHF ...

but only if, Curnow goes to the wing, i cant help but feel he would go beserk (koutaesque) ... but then back to the forward line when cripps is out ..

we have a real danger of too many talls in our forward line, especially with Pitto back and TDK floating forward, that could be one way to cycle the talls through, yet still give us something ...



There you go. Mix it up. Create our own mismatches. We have weapons everywhere.

Note we are discussing Cripps shortfall after a loss. What? Are we a one man team?

Harry did zero. Didn’t try. We kicked the ball to the opposition. We didn’t play keeping’s off spreading the ground.

We didn’t lose because Cripps got tagged. Midfield group needs to get better and Pitto back we can mix it up in the ruck too. We have weapons. Just have to get smarter and creative, and on field leadership is required to do that.

Cripps is a leader by example, but is the farming boy smart enough strategist like a Diesel, or Bradley to make onfield calls.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:21 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
GMCbris wrote:
I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

G


Yep , chuck Cripps forward . He is a beast down there .


…and Cripps has to wait for Cripps the inside mid beast to get the ball to the other mids.

I don’t think Cripps is that smart. He has to work it out how to beat Blicavs. Wack him with a tummy tap, Call out the umpire when Blicavs isn’t watching the ball, get a team mate to run through him from the opposite.

Why should we take out our No.1 inside mid from the midfield. There’s something wrong with that idea.

Selwood gets tagged, but the tough little bugger still wins the ball and dishes it out quick to closest team mate.

Sure, Cripps should sneak forward for a mismatch.

But with Pitto back and Harry Charlie and TDK forward, there’s enough fire power down there.

He just has to be better, or he’s not as tough as some make out. HTFU captain.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:26 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
GMCbris wrote:
I think he is just getting too much attention.

I havent watched the Geelong game again, feel a little deflated, but from past games I feel we need to trust others to fill his role when he is getting held at stoppages.

The umpires dont do a thing about it, so we should pull some levers. If they want to hold him in the middle. send him to full forward - stand him in the goal square. Make the opposition think if they can leave their tagger standing quiet in the square.

Our other mids can do the hard work while Cripps causes some headaches as a marking target upfield.

Throw the magnets around and see if he can shake the taggers.

Plus, stop trying to do too much :) and take the first option. Its generally the best

G


Yep , chuck Cripps forward . He is a beast down there .


…and Cripps has to wait for Cripps the inside mid beast to get the ball to the other mids.

I don’t think Cripps is that smart. He has to work it out how to beat Blicavs. Wack him with a tummy tap, Call out the umpire when Blicavs isn’t watching the ball, get a team mate to run through him from the opposite.

Why should we take out our No.1 inside mid from the midfield. There’s something wrong with that idea.

Selwood gets tagged, but the tough little bugger still wins the ball and dishes it out quick to closest team mate.

Sure, Cripps should sneak forward for a mismatch.

But with Pitto back and Harry Charlie and TDK forward, there’s enough fire power down there.

He just has to be better, or he’s not as tough as some make out. HTFU captain.


Yep Bondi . Just now and again to break it up . Nothin' permanent . Reckon Cripps is super tough with all the unrewarded punishment he cops . He absorbs a lot . Just doesn't have that mean streak to dish it out . Needs a bit of drop punt in him . And if he did he would get pinged by the umpires .

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:57 pm 
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He sure does need that drop punt.
I’m sick of letting opponents dominate him.
Like Insaid he has to be smart.

When was the last time someone got suspended for a tummy tap. Umps don’t have to see it…no free against.

Kennedy can run through Blicavs. Then Hewitt. The Blicavs will have to do some thinking.

This isn’t the year we win a flag, not a Prelim ( not saying we can’t). It’s unlikely, but we should develop a pour unsociable culture. I trust Voss to teach mummies boys.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:50 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
He sure does need that drop punt.
I’m sick of letting opponents dominate him.
Like Insaid he has to be smart.

When was the last time someone got suspended for a tummy tap. Umps don’t have to see it…no free against.

Kennedy can run through Blicavs. Then Hewitt. The Blicavs will have to do some thinking.

This isn’t the year we win a flag, not a Prelim ( not saying we can’t). It’s unlikely, but we should develop a pour unsociable culture. I trust Voss to teach mummies boys.


Yeah , now you are onto it Bondi . Unsociable . Thats it . Owies and Honey can be nasty , but apart from that pair i can't at the minute think of anyone else . Shit , that's sad aint it Bondi . Faaarkin 'ell , the old Carlton sides were riddled with nasty types .

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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
He sure does need that drop punt.
I’m sick of letting opponents dominate him.
Like Insaid he has to be smart.

When was the last time someone got suspended for a tummy tap. Umps don’t have to see it…no free against.

Kennedy can run through Blicavs. Then Hewitt. The Blicavs will have to do some thinking.

This isn’t the year we win a flag, not a Prelim ( not saying we can’t). It’s unlikely, but we should develop a pour unsociable culture. I trust Voss to teach mummies boys.


Yeah , now you are onto it Bondi . Unsociable . Thats it . Owies and Honey can be nasty , but apart from that pair i can't at the minute think of anyone else . Shit , that's sad aint it Bondi . Faaarkin 'ell , the old Carlton sides were riddled with nasty types .


Stocker has the mongrel in him. He is the best in our team for it.

Always flies the flag and loves hurting blokes.

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Mil Hanna wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
He sure does need that drop punt.
I’m sick of letting opponents dominate him.
Like Insaid he has to be smart.

When was the last time someone got suspended for a tummy tap. Umps don’t have to see it…no free against.

Kennedy can run through Blicavs. Then Hewitt. The Blicavs will have to do some thinking.

This isn’t the year we win a flag, not a Prelim ( not saying we can’t). It’s unlikely, but we should develop a pour unsociable culture. I trust Voss to teach mummies boys.


Yeah , now you are onto it Bondi . Unsociable . Thats it . Owies and Honey can be nasty , but apart from that pair i can't at the minute think of anyone else . Shit , that's sad aint it Bondi . Faaarkin 'ell , the old Carlton sides were riddled with nasty types .


Stocker has the mongrel in him. He is the best in our team for it.

Always flies the flag and loves hurting blokes.


True . So thats three . Who else ?

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