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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:39 pm 
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The counter argument to that is Richmond wouldn’t have 3 flags if it wasn’t for Short, Broad, Graham
All the blokes that do their role. That’s the thing
The best bottom 6 get you over the line every year.
Face it guys
Our bottom 6 are putrid


Our bottom six this week being Boyd, Cottrell, Newnes, Parks, Newman and Owies - so I agree. This week. Bring in Stocker, Kennedy, JSoS, McGovern, Dow, MacDonald, Kemp, Cuningham or Marchbank and I don’t agree.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:06 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
keogh wrote:
The counter argument to that is Richmond wouldn’t have 3 flags if it wasn’t for Short, Broad, Graham
All the blokes that do their role. That’s the thing
The best bottom 6 get you over the line every year.
Face it guys
Our bottom 6 are putrid


Our bottom six this week being Boyd, Cottrell, Newnes, Parks, Newman and Owies - so I agree. This week. Bring in Stocker, Kennedy, JSoS, McGovern, Dow, MacDonald, Kemp, Cuningham or Marchbank and I don’t agree.



I don't know how you missed Fisher, Setterfield and Durdin vs Freo, and Durdin last week was missing again.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:13 pm 
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keogh wrote:
The counter argument to that is Richmond wouldn’t have 3 flags if it wasn’t for Short, Broad, Graham
All the blokes that do their role. That’s the thing
The best bottom 6 get you over the line every year.
Face it guys
Our bottom 6 are putrid


A counter argument to your own argument?
You're driving in circles around the reality. The bottom 6 don't get you success. The top 6 don't get you success.
A well coached, balanced list that has luck with injuries is in the best position. As Richmond have demonstrated, you can still have the highest paid, most influential player and have a balanced list.

As for our list, it's as strong as most if we have a run of luck with injuries. You just focus on the negatives.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:22 pm 
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Martin simply does not impact enough and he is soft at the contest.



Gosh, lucky he had Short, Broad, & Graham as backup then :grin:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:42 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
The counter argument to that is Richmond wouldn’t have 3 flags if it wasn’t for Short, Broad, Graham
All the blokes that do their role. That’s the thing
The best bottom 6 get you over the line every year.
Face it guys
Our bottom 6 are putrid


A counter argument to your own argument?
You're driving in circles around the reality. The bottom 6 don't get you success. The top 6 don't get you success.
A well coached, balanced list that has luck with injuries is in the best position. As Richmond have demonstrated, you can still have the highest paid, most influential player and have a balanced list.

As for our list, it's as strong as most if we have a run of luck with injuries. You just focus on the negatives.

What’s are %BV
You overate the list like a lot of fans and media
Voss hopefully will be able to devise a game plan to match it with the best but I seriously don’t think we have enough talent.
I hope I am proved wrong.
As you and I agree though you can’t sack Voss until he and his coaching staff have had a decent crack at it


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:49 pm 
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talent is there keogh

open your @#$%&! eyes


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:52 pm 
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TheDenominator wrote:
talent is there keogh

open your @#$%&! eyes

So far it hasn’t happened has it
Teague go the blame for it by being sacked
Early days with Voss


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:00 pm 
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keogh wrote:
TheDenominator wrote:
talent is there keogh

open your @#$%&! eyes

So far it hasn’t happened has it
Teague go the blame for it by being sacked
Early days with Voss


Yeah early days and he has us 4-2 with plenty to work on but a big chance to go 7-2. No reason we cant win the next 3. Let's see how we go. I am sure you will find a way to downplay that if it happens though.

As BV said, some luck with injury will go a long way. Look at Charlie....he's just getting going and is 5th in the Coleman.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:13 pm 
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I think we are more likely to be 4-5 than 7-2 but my spirit has been tainted by seeing us live against Freo and how bad we were around the ground.

Hopefully it was an aberration.

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AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:25 pm 
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Wow.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:05 pm 
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Effes wrote:
AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)


Speaks volumes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:47 pm 
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MPH78 wrote:
Effes wrote:
AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)


Speaks volumes.


DejaVu all over again.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:27 pm 
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Effes wrote:
AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)



Holy Jesus.

This guy is on top of The game, let alone HIS game.

3 x 3 votes
1 x 2 votes

If only we had 2 of him. Thank god for Walsy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:57 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
keogh wrote:
The counter argument to that is Richmond wouldn’t have 3 flags if it wasn’t for Short, Broad, Graham
All the blokes that do their role. That’s the thing
The best bottom 6 get you over the line every year.
Face it guys
Our bottom 6 are putrid


Our bottom six this week being Boyd, Cottrell, Newnes, Parks, Newman and Owies - so I agree. This week. Bring in Stocker, Kennedy, JSoS, McGovern, Dow, MacDonald, Kemp, Cuningham or Marchbank and I don’t agree.



I don't know how you missed Fisher, Setterfield and Durdin vs Freo, and Durdin last week was missing again.


Easy - 9 or 8 into 6 don't go. Also, the others have runs on the board with previous games so escape for now.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:24 pm 
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Can someone please put up the MVP voting poll? I'm trying to put the game out of my mind.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:46 pm 
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Effes wrote:
AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)


Surprised Newnes didn’t get any votes for Freo…


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:13 pm 
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strangeblue wrote:
Effes wrote:
AFLCA Votes

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
6 Lachie Schultz (FRE)
2 Rory Lobb (FRE)
2 Brennan Cox (FRE)
1 Sam Switkowski (FRE)
1 Luke Ryan (FRE)


Surprised Newnes didn’t get any votes for Freo…


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:25 pm 
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Keogh is partly right that our bottom 6 isn't good enough. But it's not the bottom 6 of our best 22, it's the bottom 6 of our best 32, or 35 or whatever. First two games of the season we were getting contributions from top to bottom and many were satisfied with our depth, probably because the names not on the team sheet used to be regulars. Now once again we've been decimated by injuries in all the most vulnerable areas of the squad, and we're realising why those former regulars became depth players. Whoever mentioned good injury fortune as critical to success was right, as Richmond have demonstrated on both sides of the ledger. The system only gets you so far, you need top talent across the ground. Of course it isn't all luck, and we reap what we sow by recruiting players with bad injury records.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:32 pm 
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malbi wrote:
Can someone please put up the MVP voting poll? I'm trying to put the game out of my mind.

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

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