I missed that criticism. Yep bizarre.

I thought Saad and Williams are the only 2 who put the burners on and give us some creativity, week in week out.

Don't buy into the bullshit negativity of Keogh. He dropped a @#$%&! chest mark. At least he tried to make things happen and he generally did.

I also understand the frustration with the Williams turnover but I give him credit for having the guts to take the kick.

I missed that criticism. Yep bizarre.

I thought Saad and Williams are the only 2 who put the burners on and give us some creativity, week in week out.

Ask yourself what impact do they have on the result.
They both play as loose defenders
Why not try Saad further up the ground where we can use his pace to pressure. It’s sadly lacking in our game. Saad has played one position his whole career
On $650000 for 5 years and a first pick he needs to be more versatile
Williams had the most ineffective 36 possessions against GC
He has been tryed up the ground and no good.
Add Docherty as the third small defender.
They don’t impact the game enough.
I repeat we won’t take the next step unless we become better as a team when the opposition has the ball in space. Not just when the ball is in our defensive half
Saad and Williams should be at their peak in their footy careers

As you guys know I have had a problem with our overall recruiting strategy since 2018 when we gave up the farm for Setterfield and McGovern

It’s a general thought I have

Not that I expect every trade to be a success
The Brad Hill trade is ridiculous and he is only playing well because the team has improved overall

But overall the Saints and the Dockers have really got some gold with some late and rookie picks

We lost to the team that is second on the ladder after losing our ruckman in the first quarter, Silvagni and Kennedy out of the side injured and Harry dragging his bottom lip.
I know one player shouldn't make a big difference but it does. At the moment our game is built around clearances. It's what gets us territory and scores. Once Pittonet went down, we lost our area of potential dominance.

As for Jack Martin, he kicked and/or set up 3 of our first 4 or 5 goals. Kicked one, handball to a player for another and kicked the ball to the 3rd. At least Martin competes and makes things happen. Most of our forwards couldn't make a mistake because they didn't get near the ball.
Don't buy into the bullshit negativity of Keogh. He dropped a @#$%&! chest mark. At least he tried to make things happen and he generally did.

I also understand the frustration with the Williams turnover but I give him credit for having the guts to take the kick.
We're 3-4 goals down with 10 minutes to play. Would you rather he take the long bail out kick that comes straight back? We had to take risks and he took one. Yes it was a disappointing outcome but give me that courage over risk free bullshit 50 metre bail out kicks to their ruckman everytime.

We lost to the team that is second on the ladder after losing our ruckman in the first quarter, Silvagni and Kennedy out of the side injured and Harry dragging his bottom lip.
I know one player shouldn't make a big difference but it does. At the moment our game is built around clearances. It's what gets us territory and scores. Once Pittonet went down, we lost our area of potential dominance.

As for Jack Martin, he kicked and/or set up 3 of our first 4 or 5 goals. Kicked one, handball to a player for another and kicked the ball to the 3rd. At least Martin competes and makes things happen. Most of our forwards couldn't make a mistake because they didn't get near the ball.
Don't buy into the bullshit negativity of Keogh. He dropped a @#$%&! chest mark. At least he tried to make things happen and he generally did.

I also understand the frustration with the Williams turnover but I give him credit for having the guts to take the kick.
We're 3-4 goals down with 10 minutes to play. Would you rather he take the long bail out kick that comes straight back? We had to take risks and he took one. Yes it was a disappointing outcome but give me that courage over risk free bullshit 50 metre bail out kicks to their ruckman everytime.

Can we stick a f@@rkin tackle?

Setters, Fish, Owies ..... times up
There's another 3 or 4 who aren't too far behind.

Good post.

Am I the only one the has questions over Harry's commitment?

Walsh works through injuries, Harry sooks it up. Tonight wasn't the first time.

Of course we have other worries of greater importance. We lost this at the selection table. Newnes, Cottrell, Setters in particular.

Still I'm not panicking like some, Freo are a good team, particularly on their home deck.

Pitto going down was massive. We learn and move on.

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When you lose one of your most important players so early it does unsettle the side and structure and of course no JSOS was just salt in the wound.

(can we just get a @#$%&! half decent injury run though, @#$%&!).

I still think we would have lost even if Pittonet played as Freo are a good side and their strengths are our weaknesses.

I think the hard thing tonight was our bottom 6 was more like a bottom 8-10 and they were all just fairly shithouse.

Whats with the ground there? Players fell over all night and skidded along like it was sand.

Moving the deck chairs is exactly what will happen if williamson is recalled
He's been tried and found out.

Have you watched Willo in the VFL?
He had 3 good touches in 4th Qtr, but the previous 7 Qtrs have not been VFL standard.
Please, not Williamson.
We need smart players

Carroll looked great yesterday, but he was average against the Tigers last week.
Need to bring players in when they have strung a few good games in a row, otherwise its just more of moving deck chairs.

The issue is our top 6 AFL listed players in the VFL are not better than our bottom 6.

LOB and Carroll would be our best 2 to consider

Stocker, Phip, Kemp, Dow, Williamson Fogarty are nowhere near it...and Akuei can't get his hands on the ball.

LOB unlucky to be dropped
Fisher, Owies, Setterfield lucky to not have been dropped
Dow unlucky to not be given a game this year
Newnes and Cottrel were NEVER the answer, regardless of their VFL form
Boyd...what can I say!!

I DGAF about players in the ressies having to earn their spot in the seniors. While that is a default position, I DoGAF about players in the seniors who are continuously playing poor football and not being dropped

I missed that criticism. Yep bizarre.

I thought Saad and Williams are the only 2 who put the burners on and give us some creativity, week in week out.

I’m with Keogh. Not negative at all - just a realist.

And re: Williams’ kick out, would you be saying that if it was a goal the difference with 1 min to play? It was a bad option.

Same with Martin missing at a crucial stage only to see the ball rebound for a goal. These guys are on huge bikkies. Sick and tired of excuses.

But all players make mistakes Singling out one or two from the whole game from a single player with no balanced perspective by comparing the positives is just pure negativity in anyones language and the continual references to supposed salaries is irrelevant yet it is used in an effort to somehow support his point.