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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:32 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:59 am 
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Keogh is partly right that our bottom 6 isn't good enough. But it's not the bottom 6 of our best 22, it's the bottom 6 of our best 32, or 35 or whatever. First two games of the season we were getting contributions from top to bottom and many were satisfied with our depth, probably because the names not on the team sheet used to be regulars. Now once again we've been decimated by injuries in all the most vulnerable areas of the squad, and we're realising why those former regulars became depth players. Whoever mentioned good injury fortune as critical to success was right, as Richmond have demonstrated on both sides of the ledger. The system only gets you so far, you need top talent across the ground. Of course it isn't all luck, and we reap what we sow by recruiting players with bad injury records.


Correct. Our best 22 is as good as most. Our system failures were more costly. I look back at 2 of Schultz' goals and they were a result of our defensive system breaking down. Both times Saad had to make a decision to pick up another player entering the attacking 50 and both times was left trying to guard 2 players.
The system should be that the defender picks up the shorter option and the other defenders push across and defend the next nearest player.
At least if there is a spare forward, it's a longer kick with more hang time which enables the players to come across and defend the ball.
Saad was furious and so he should of been. Midfielders should have pushed back hard to defend and the defenders should be operating as a unit, consistently appraising the structure and reacting instead of selfishly sticking on their opponent.
It also highlighted the smarts and workrate of Brayshaw. He pushed into space inside 50 forcing Saad to make a choice. A well functioning defence would have been communicating and reacting.

Another time was Switkowski waltzing through a stoppage 15m out from goal and easily capitalising.
So when you consider we were without our ruckman from the start, our Coleman medallist was impeded from early in the first quarter and IMHO were without another4 of our best 22, our personnel isn't too bad.
We need to remember we're playing the team 2nd on the ladder, interstate and despite losing personnel, we were still 21 points down late in the game, I don't believe the loss was disastrous as some are making out.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:37 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Keogh is partly right that our bottom 6 isn't good enough. But it's not the bottom 6 of our best 22, it's the bottom 6 of our best 32, or 35 or whatever. First two games of the season we were getting contributions from top to bottom and many were satisfied with our depth, probably because the names not on the team sheet used to be regulars. Now once again we've been decimated by injuries in all the most vulnerable areas of the squad, and we're realising why those former regulars became depth players. Whoever mentioned good injury fortune as critical to success was right, as Richmond have demonstrated on both sides of the ledger. The system only gets you so far, you need top talent across the ground. Of course it isn't all luck, and we reap what we sow by recruiting players with bad injury records.


Correct. Our best 22 is as good as most. Our system failures were more costly. I look back at 2 of Schultz' goals and they were a result of our defensive system breaking down. Both times Saad had to make a decision to pick up another player entering the attacking 50 and both times was left trying to guard 2 players.
The system should be that the defender picks up the shorter option and the other defenders push across and defend the next nearest player.
At least if there is a spare forward, it's a longer kick with more hang time which enables the players to come across and defend the ball.
Saad was furious and so he should of been. Midfielders should have pushed back hard to defend and the defenders should be operating as a unit, consistently appraising the structure and reacting instead of selfishly sticking on their opponent.
It also highlighted the smarts and workrate of Brayshaw. He pushed into space inside 50 forcing Saad to make a choice. A well functioning defence would have been communicating and reacting.

Another time was Switkowski waltzing through a stoppage 15m out from goal and easily capitalising.
So when you consider we were without our ruckman from the start, our Coleman medallist was impeded from early in the first quarter and IMHO were without another4 of our best 22, our personnel isn't too bad.
We need to remember we're playing the team 2nd on the ladder, interstate and despite losing personnel, we were still 21 points down late in the game, I don't believe the loss was disastrous as some are making out.


Agree, we were not smashed or embarrassed by our performance. Charlies miss in the last, ditto Martin could have narrowed the gap to 9 behinds, or even 3 instead the ball made its way to their forwardline ending on goals.

Add a few arsy goals from Walters, Acres, Switkowski and that unfortunate fisted ball from Weitering landed in taberner's lap for his only goal.

But some of the efforts of some of the players (our bottom 8 on the day) made it hard work for those who busted a gut. They're the ones I'm spewing at: Lazy, complacent, unaccountable, picking and choosing when to try or commit to a contest.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:37 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:30 pm 
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Pros:

Started well.
Tried hard, but were inefficient.
Cripps and Cerra.
Saad was pretty good again. Same with Martin.
De Koning was beaten, but competed pretty well. Should be good for his development to have to play 1st ruck for a while.
Another encouraging performance by Boyd.
Liked the move to get Lewis around the ball in the last quarter. He actually looked much more poised with the ball this week. Although he was very poor at his defensive spoiling this week (usually his beat trait). But generally showing improvement.

Cons:

Out-pressured and out-paced.
Defensive stoppages.
Players slipping over especially early in the game.
Too many non-contributors. 10 players who didn't manage 10 possessions. Plus 2 other midfielders with only 14 and 15 possessions. Harry had a shocker. Parks hasn't shown anything in his 2 games.
After an excellent start to the year, Durdin seems to have reverted to his VFL low-possession form of last year in the last 2 weeks.
Home ground umpiring in the 50 metre zones.
Got slaughtered in the air in our forward 50. 4-5 easy dropped marks that would have led to scores. Then allowed intercepting defenders to take marks, when the ball should have been brought to ground.
Injury to Pittonet.
Really missing an aerial interceptor in defence.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:51 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Keogh is partly right that our bottom 6 isn't good enough. But it's not the bottom 6 of our best 22, it's the bottom 6 of our best 32, or 35 or whatever. First two games of the season we were getting contributions from top to bottom and many were satisfied with our depth, probably because the names not on the team sheet used to be regulars. Now once again we've been decimated by injuries in all the most vulnerable areas of the squad, and we're realising why those former regulars became depth players. Whoever mentioned good injury fortune as critical to success was right, as Richmond have demonstrated on both sides of the ledger. The system only gets you so far, you need top talent across the ground. Of course it isn't all luck, and we reap what we sow by recruiting players with bad injury records.


Good post.


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