Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Crusader wrote:
I haven’t watched a replay yet, but I’d be keen to hear from others any insight into how Martin & Owies went statless in the last quarter.
Jack put in a big third quarter, getting himself into the action at half back, but (Fisher aside) the crumbers and half forwards were a piss poor group in the second half.
Go and watch Jack Martin play live and focus on him. When others are jogging around the field, he sprints up and down the ground creating options, drawing defenders which creates space for his team mates and attacking the ball/player as hard as anyone.
If his body can hold together and he can stay on the park long enough to build his endurance, he'll be great value. I watched him yesterday when he didn't have the footy and couldn't believe his workrate and application.
Owies and Durdin didn't have big games but we still had 16 inside tackles which is very good. It's our connection between half back and half forward that's creating us issues.
I agree with the last statement.
I think your been very generous when it comes to Martin.
He doesn’t attack the ball/player as hard as anyone. That’s crap. Actually the opposite at times.
Martin coasts
He has had it easy as a footballer.
Looks a million dollars
Silky skills
But simply goes missing for too long
When tried in the midfield has been useless
I also reckon he hasn’t been fit enough his whole career and got away with it
I read your posts about Jack Martin so I go and watch him play the game.
He needs to be more consistent but he busts a gut. So your posts that equate players to dreamt up remuneration receive the contempt they deserve.
So before you slag off players, go along and watch them. Watch what they do with the ball but more importantly, watch what they do without it. Watch how and where they run. What they do to create instead of what you see in your TV screen. That's far more productive than posting crap about dropping player A and replacing him with player B at the drop off a hat. Especially when player B is injured, underprepared or just not up to it.
Martin is an overrated player.
He was brought to our club to bolster our midfield. Not to exclusively play as a half forward.
If he runs so well and busts a gut as you say why isn’t he playing further up the ground or at the stoppages.
Martin does have excellent hands and is very good over his head.
What he isn’t good act is going in and getting the hard ball from my observation.
I don’t go to too many games living in WA but
he was pathetic against Hawthorn when we were beaten in the middle. That was my observation when I was observing at a game.
Another issue which relates to Martin and every player on the list.
We are a work in progress. At the minute Voss is 5 games into his coaching tenure. We clearly need to work harder and have a clear system when the opposition have the ball in space. We get scored against way too easy. It’s up to Voss to work on improving the performance so we are harder to play against
That’s what the top teams do.
Which means he has to work out which players can carry out the plan.
Hopefully Martin can be part of it but if his last quarter was anything to go by then he needs to improve
It was the main reason Teague got the bullet. Clearly it wasn’t all his fault. That’s why it’s imperative the board don’t get impatient and sack another coac before his contract is up.
It took a few years and a few stumbles before it all clicked for Melbourne Ditto Tigers
I still believe some blokes on our list play for themselves too much.
This needs to be weeded out
Vintage Keogh.
He was garbage in the ‘93 GF as well.
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