Pretty sure the 3rd Qtr is part of the second half. He had 9 touches in the 3rd and was heavily involved...just didnt quite work for him but he was busting a gut to make it so.

Wingers who can run both ways can help a lot. But where are they.

Cottrell is is meant to have endurance and had a few touches but was useless in this aspect.

Newnes no. Setterfield no.

Stocker, Caroll, Kemp, Philp, Dow, Honey, are all worth a chance.

So we have options that may or may not work but we have options.

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Watched the 1st half again geez the score could have been so much better.
Newes on the run and set shot misses
Jack two gettable from in front
Harry missed everything from 35 out
Setterfield missed from goal square
Fish in decision

Easily 6 to 7 goals shy of where we should of been despite being 49 points up.

Like the 2's we dominated and should have made more of their chances.
The third quarter in reserves game they were all over tigers and didn't convert.

You ask yourself is it a confidence issue and do they have enough belief in themselves

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yep, thought we could have been 12 goals up at half time

Dead right crusader.

Voss' system seems to be based on hard ball gets, followed by hard running creating and connecting, often creating an overlap for space for measured connection further upfieldd: The Territory game.

It has been reported adnauseum in the media Carlton doesn't have a Turnover Game and along with these Fade outs IMO is a result of not having good runners in the forward line. Thi sis required to create overlap, leads and to take on midfield minutes to keep the intensity up in the coal face.

Martin looked gassed after an amazing couple quarters, and I know he's got 17 more weeks to get Finals fit. Right now he's not fit enough to play that level of intensity for more than 2 quarters, let alone time in the midfield.

Owies went missing and goes missing, and Durdin didn't feature in more than 2 quarters, (he may fade later in the season), but importantly neither offer much to rotate through the midfield.

Fisher can play an outside role in the midfield, so while the big bodied Kennedy going missing for the 2nd week in a row, Hewett (and Cripps when available) need a big body to rotate in midfield to KEEP the intensity UP.

Voss' game plan requires strong and fit bodies.

Walshy has admitted he's nearly match fit after 4 games. There will be pressure for Martin's and Owies spots when Philp, Honey, Carroll, Motlop and Cuningham get up and going in the 2nd half of 2022.

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That Setterfield miss was terrible.

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I see your point.

But I keep going back to fitness levels required to play Voss System for 3 and half quarters instead of 2, or 1, to win comfortably.
Hewett Cerra and Walsh can't play those roles with the required level of intensity for 4 quarters. Adding Cripps will help, but Kennedy going missing for 2 weeks hasn't been helpful.

No other players run through the midfield.

That's why Voss needed hard endurance runners who like the physical side of the game in Cottrell and Newnes, like them or not.

Once the intensity dropped, and lets face it Hewett was doing it all himself with walsh...against that preface, then your bit comes in

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I’m firmly entrenched in Martin’s corner. I’ve posted elsewhere about the value of his off ball work and have no doubt that he’s in our best side no matter how you want to look at it.

I’m just wondering where he was in the last quarter. Was he on the bench? I know we were running pretty close to our full quota of rotations in the last quarter… I’ve just got a gut feeling that we have a management issue.

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We do have options teddy. That's the beauty.
and without them playing we are still getting the 4 points.
They will come on, but none are setting the world on fire in the VFL, yet, well Dow if needed,, or are out injured.

Hate to say it but imo Cottrell-Newnes are better than LOB Setterfield, but we need to move past those guys quickly and find out who can fill the important wing roles imo.

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I get it. Good question.

Anyone have the data on Martin's last quarter ToG?

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great post SB.

pressure on spots will be a great incentive to fix that.

Maybe they haven't been taught that "layer" yet, hence the difficulty with the connection between the HB and the HF line.

Lets hope we see that evolve with the team this year.

Its a really exciting prospect to see Carlton playing their scorching best for 4 quarters.

We have 17 more weeks to evolve and get there, and we are 4-1

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Yes I also noted that on numerous ocassions it was Durdin or Owies being the lead up and it never worked. It will be interesting to see once Honey gets back in the VFL whether he becomes the preferred option to Owies. Personally I would prefer Honey or Cunningham to Owies as I think with Owies Fish and Durdin we are too small.

I left my seat front row on level 2 at 3/4 time against the Tigers because I couldn't bear to watch the last quarter of the last 9 years repeat itself.

Watched it from the standing room so I could at least slink away without copping it from Richmond fans when they eventually rolled us.

Didn't go yesterday after what we dished up the last 6 quarters against Hawthorn and Gold Coast.

Absolutely no trust in this team, and fair enough after 20 years of misery.

Harry seems to be the only forward that can shift the opposition zone when he presents as that lead up option. The rest aren’t doing enough damage in the air to command that sort of respect.

De Koning as the fwd/ruck would’ve been ideal for that lead up option, but he didn’t want to leave the 50m arc. Without a true CHF, we have to look to Silvagni, Curnow & Pittonet - the latter would require a more courageous path to goal as he’s asked to defend the corridor.

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AFLCA Votes

Player (Club)
9 Charlie Curnow (CARL)
8 Sam Walsh (CARL)
7 George Hewett (CARL)
2 Connor Rozee (PORT)
2 Harry McKay (CARL)
2 Zak Butters (PORT)

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You lose all credibility with your comments about Martin’s lack of effort and intensity by asking for TDK to be promoted.

I thought Connor Rozee was clearly better than Sam Walsh

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Surprised Amon didn't get a vote from Kern. I thought him going to Walsh and minimizing his impact was one of the reasons they got back into it.

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Correct , and what makes it more fascinating he hasn't signed for next year at this stage . Voss would be in his ear for sure .

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