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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:28 am 
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No disrespect to Fogarty, Dow or Gold Coast and you always want to pick your best team, but if the difference between Fogarty or Dow is the difference between winning or losing against Gold Coast then we should give it away now.

These are the games that we should be winning comfortably if we’re going to be the real deal.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:42 am 
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Win today and we go 2nd... lose and we could drop to 7th

If we win by enough today we can go to 1st. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:56 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
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Fogarty is a good tough little footballer . No problem with his inclusion . Hold the ball in . A defensive forward . One thing about Fogarty , he will do exactly what the coach tells him to do . A real team player .


I must be the only one, but I am an actually believer, this guy isn’t a forward. He is a genuine midfielder and probably can only play that position and we all know the issue with that currently.


Fogherty has been training and playing as a defensive forward, Dow has been training and playing as an inside mid, Martin has been training and playing as HFF. Dow is not competing with Martin and Figherty for a place in the seniors, he’s competing with Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Cerra.


Perfectly put Sin . Its horses for courses simple as that . And as our good mate GWS reminds us , if that selection controversy derails us we are going nowhere . Gotta be above all that sort of stuff .

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:29 pm 
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Anyone else worried about today?
This is one of those games we are expected to win and we know what has happened in the past.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:57 pm 
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Kezza, I emphasise about how you are feeling about today. The past is the past. This is New Carlton. A new beginning.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:04 pm 
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Anyone else worried about today?
This is one of those games we are expected to win and we know what has happened in the past.
In all the shittiness over the last 20 years I can't think of a game where I have felt generally nervous like this one.
Win it the corner could be finally turned.
Lose it and we could easily slip back to shittiness again.
Grown man approaching 60 I shouldn't give a shite. But I do

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:19 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Anyone else worried about today?
This is one of those games we are expected to win and we know what has happened in the past.
In all the shittiness over the last 20 years I can't think of a game where I have felt generally nervous like this one.
Win it the corner could be finally turned.
Lose it and we could easily slip back to shittiness again.
Grown man approaching 60 I shouldn't give a shite. But I do

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Not many games I have felt very confident at all in that time.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:33 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Fogarty is a good tough little footballer . No problem with his inclusion . Hold the ball in . A defensive forward . One thing about Fogarty , he will do exactly what the coach tells him to do . A real team player .


I must be the only one, but I am an actually believer, this guy isn’t a forward. He is a genuine midfielder and probably can only play that position and we all know the issue with that currently.


Fogherty has been training and playing as a defensive forward, Dow has been training and playing as an inside mid, Martin has been training and playing as HFF. Dow is not competing with Martin and Figherty for a place in the seniors, he’s competing with Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Cerra.


Totally irrelevant point and obviously missed mine.
Just to clarify, you can train a guy anywhere you feel he fits in, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct position for him. In other words, training him as a defensive forward is good and well but if his best footy is elsewhere then you are wasting your time. For the best part.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:45 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Fogarty is a good tough little footballer . No problem with his inclusion . Hold the ball in . A defensive forward . One thing about Fogarty , he will do exactly what the coach tells him to do . A real team player .


I must be the only one, but I am an actually believer, this guy isn’t a forward. He is a genuine midfielder and probably can only play that position and we all know the issue with that currently.


Fogherty has been training and playing as a defensive forward, Dow has been training and playing as an inside mid, Martin has been training and playing as HFF. Dow is not competing with Martin and Figherty for a place in the seniors, he’s competing with Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Cerra.


Totally irrelevant point and obviously missed mine.
Just to clarify, you can train a guy anywhere you feel he fits in, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct position for him. In other words, training him as a defensive forward is good and well but if his best footy is elsewhere then you are wasting your time. For the best part.


Hows that Suzz ? i agree with you in that he can play midfield but he is also effective as a defensive forward . More strings to his bow the better . Also realistically speaking he has no hope of unseating one of the fabulous four .

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:48 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Fogarty is a good tough little footballer . No problem with his inclusion . Hold the ball in . A defensive forward . One thing about Fogarty , he will do exactly what the coach tells him to do . A real team player .


I must be the only one, but I am an actually believer, this guy isn’t a forward. He is a genuine midfielder and probably can only play that position and we all know the issue with that currently.


Fogherty has been training and playing as a defensive forward, Dow has been training and playing as an inside mid, Martin has been training and playing as HFF. Dow is not competing with Martin and Figherty for a place in the seniors, he’s competing with Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Cerra.


Totally irrelevant point and obviously missed mine.
Just to clarify, you can train a guy anywhere you feel he fits in, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct position for him. In other words, training him as a defensive forward is good and well but if his best footy is elsewhere then you are wasting your time. For the best part.


I get where you're coming from surrey.

Its an MC decision to play Fogarty as a defensive HF in the seniors and ironically he has been selected to play seniors after good form as a midfield player.

Go figure what's going on when Voss suggests players are competing for particular roles, and are selected as such.

Its obvious the MC don't rate anyone else to play the small defensive forward role with Durdin out, and the only one available is maybe Philp who has missed a few games with injury.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:49 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Fogarty is a good tough little footballer . No problem with his inclusion . Hold the ball in . A defensive forward . One thing about Fogarty , he will do exactly what the coach tells him to do . A real team player .


I must be the only one, but I am an actually believer, this guy isn’t a forward. He is a genuine midfielder and probably can only play that position and we all know the issue with that currently.


Fogherty has been training and playing as a defensive forward, Dow has been training and playing as an inside mid, Martin has been training and playing as HFF. Dow is not competing with Martin and Figherty for a place in the seniors, he’s competing with Cripps, Hewett, Walsh and Cerra.


Totally irrelevant point and obviously missed mine.
Just to clarify, you can train a guy anywhere you feel he fits in, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct position for him. In other words, training him as a defensive forward is good and well but if his best footy is elsewhere then you are wasting your time. For the best part.


Hows that Suzz ? i agree with you in that he can play midfield but he is also effective as a defensive forward . More strings to his bow the better . Also realistically speaking he has no hope of unseating one of the fabulous four .


Agree with the latter. I just don't think he is better then Martin, Durdin, Fisher, Owies and or Motlop either. For mine, he has little tricks and or kicking skills to play the small forward role. Best chance is to become the little accumulator through the middle but again hard to break through there as well. Just my thoughts though.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:10 pm 
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Dow taken off in the twos - hasn't played last quarter - didn't see any injury


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:12 pm 
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and then glass Mc spoils a certain goal...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:15 pm 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
and then glass Mc spoils a certain goal...


embarassing ... but didnt make a difference to the result.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:16 pm 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
Dow taken off in the twos - hasn't played last quarter - didn't see any injury



Maybe Sub??? Doesn't have to travel far. :roll:

Ahead of Boyd who didnt play?


Maybe a late Out?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:43 pm 
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All good Suzz .

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I'm nearly always worried!


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do kick ins count as disposals on the stats sheet (GC reserves kicked 18 points...)


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