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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:09 pm 
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Haha, yeah - I did think I was sounding a bit Jimmae there for a minute! :lol:

I was thinking about throwing a bit of bone vibration into the story, but then my whole post probably would not have been taken seriously.... :wink:

When my back injury first flared up, I was amazed at how little the general medical world knew about back injuries and how to treat them properly. The general advice is to rest, take NSAIDs and then see a physio for some stretches and recovery exercises (which are generally useless, unless it is just a minor twinge). After trying all the usuals without success, I ended up seeing an Osteopath and then getting dry needling done, which was not only incredibly painful, but also made it flare up worse to the point that I couldn't walk.

Next thing I know I was seeing a sports doctor - Dr Chris Bradshaw - the long time Geelong and Collingwood club doctor and he was all about scans, cortisone injections and operations. After a MRI, he was "Ah yeah, bulging disc at L4/L5 compressing the sciatic nerve, we can try a nerve root block (a CT-guided cortisone injection that involves a needle that goes about 100mm into your back, next to your spine) and see if that works (it did for about 3 days), otherwise we will book you in with a surgeon to cut that part of the disc out". I asked if it was really necessary to go straight to surgery and he said "Have a look at Brad Ottens. He has been struggling with back issues for ages and surgery was the only thing that fixed him".

So I met with a surgeon and after he explained the risks of the procedure (nicked spinal cords, permanent nerve damage, permanent numbness etc), I left and went down the rabbit hole of searching for a natural remedy. It turns out there are plenty of people who know how to treat back injuries, they just don't subscribe to the "Let's treat the symptoms and not the underlying problem" mantra.

All back injuries are different and people's bodies are different, so there's no silver bullet, but understanding the underlying issue and how the musculoskeletal system works goes a long way to finding a treatment that works. I wish I had known that from the start... :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:15 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
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Look, Mil *sounds* knowledgeable but I really need to hear from Jimmae before I commit fully to a belief.


Who?


Behold, the mighty Jimmae!!

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=483

His best work was on the physiology and injury front - bone vibration, fast and slow twitch muscle fibres etc.

Enjoy. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:13 pm 
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Mil Hanna wrote:
Haha, yeah - I did think I was sounding a bit Jimmae there for a minute! :lol:

I was thinking about throwing a bit of bone vibration into the story, but then my whole post probably would not have been taken seriously.... :wink:

When my back injury first flared up, I was amazed at how little the general medical world knew about back injuries and how to treat them properly. The general advice is to rest, take NSAIDs and then see a physio for some stretches and recovery exercises (which are generally useless, unless it is just a minor twinge). After trying all the usuals without success, I ended up seeing an Osteopath and then getting dry needling done, which was not only incredibly painful, but also made it flare up worse to the point that I couldn't walk.

Next thing I know I was seeing a sports doctor - Dr Chris Bradshaw - the long time Geelong and Collingwood club doctor and he was all about scans, cortisone injections and operations. After a MRI, he was "Ah yeah, bulging disc at L4/L5 compressing the sciatic nerve, we can try a nerve root block (a CT-guided cortisone injection that involves a needle that goes about 100mm into your back, next to your spine) and see if that works (it did for about 3 days), otherwise we will book you in with a surgeon to cut that part of the disc out". I asked if it was really necessary to go straight to surgery and he said "Have a look at Brad Ottens. He has been struggling with back issues for ages and surgery was the only thing that fixed him".

So I met with a surgeon and after he explained the risks of the procedure (nicked spinal cords, permanent nerve damage, permanent numbness etc), I left and went down the rabbit hole of searching for a natural remedy. It turns out there are plenty of people who know how to treat back injuries, they just don't subscribe to the "Let's treat the symptoms and not the underlying problem" mantra.

All back injuries are different and people's bodies are different, so there's no silver bullet, but understanding the underlying issue and how the musculoskeletal system works goes a long way to finding a treatment that works. I wish I had known that from the start... :cry:


Good onya Mil :thumbsup:

You sounded like you knew what you were talking about. I see why.

I was going to say I love it when you talk dirty, but there wasn't enough Latin and Greek in your summary.

Point is, we hope, and trust Hewett is in good hands, and it is on the minor side.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:25 pm 
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Laminectomy….

is that a laminectomy…?

because i had two of those…c3 c4 i think…
can’t remember…they hurt too much…!

got golden staph…had a personal ID Doc…
nearly died…good times…!


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is it laminectomy…?

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
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Close. I think laminectomy is when surgical intervention is needed when choking on a lamington.

You're thinking of a laminect... Oh.

Yeah same thing

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Why I ORTA….!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Mil Hanna wrote:
His best work was on the physiology and injury front - bone vibration, fast and slow twitch muscle fibres etc.


I think his best thing was this...I still use it!

http://jimmae.epizy.com/teamboard.html?i=2


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:20 pm 
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Good onya Doc.

Visited the Willi Oval a few weeks ago. Thought of you.
This week Carlton vs Williamstown. Thought of you.
Went to a few bars in Willi. Great town. How's the views of the city. FMD
Another fellow TCer is residing out there too. Visited him too

DocSherrin III wrote:
Mil Hanna wrote:
His best work was on the physiology and injury front - bone vibration, fast and slow twitch muscle fibres etc.


I think his best thing was this...I still use it!

http://jimmae.epizy.com/teamboard.html?i=2



There was one of those before his one.

I'm still suss...since the day he came up with it.

I didn't care, and he didnt make a big show n tell it was his idea
jimmae's board is better too.
Pity I dont use it. I use my own excel version with players represented in colors with age weight n height.
Kills time and gives me more Carlton time and away from bars n clubs.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:03 pm 
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More blows for the Blues.

Nic Newman out for the rest of the H&A season with a cut knee. Corey Durdin (shoulder) & George Hewett (back) to miss at least another week. Matt Kennedy also suffered a fractured jaw that will keep him sidelined for at least a fortnight.
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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That’s super…!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Derailing.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:36 pm 
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Is this a sick joke?
Seriously, can we ever get a break?


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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
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Jeez that's some shit luck especially for Newman.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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You couldn't make this $hit up! :banghead:
Ffs :hitcomputer:

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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This is just [REDACTED]


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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kezza wrote:
Is this a sick joke?
Seriously, can we ever get a break?
Yep.

Collarbone. 10-12 weeks

Probably happen to Cripps at the 12 Min mark of the first

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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bluehammer wrote:
kezza wrote:
Is this a sick joke?
Seriously, can we ever get a break?
Yep.

Collarbone. 10-12 weeks

Probably happen to Cripps at the 12 Min mark of the first

Stop it.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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This is what happens when you talk about getting players back. Of course they'll just be replaced on the list. I'm just surprised they're mostly accidental impact injuries and not muscle injuries from overworking the available players.

Up against it now, will make playing finals even more satisfying.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Injuries have been a nightmare for everyone outside the inner circle at CaRLTON.

I dont know how they have won so many big games against the odds, since the first loss in round 4

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