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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:10 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
30 May update-

Weitering confirmed out for 6 weeks.
Cunningham has had a set back (calf) and now the plan is “to have available late in the season”.
McKay, McGovern, Pittonet, Williams, E Curnow & Parks are still some weeks away.
Kennedy, Marchbank & Mirkov should be good to play after the bye.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/11398 ... mid-season

As resilient as we’ve been so far this season, that’s too many injuries to too many good players to be a contender IMO.

Autumn was fun, but winter will be long.

I think you might be right. There’s still plenty of reason to expect a return to finals action, but it’ll be more of a limp in and hope for the best type of deal.

I say it every year, winter is the great revealer.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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BlueJean wrote:
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Welters injury could have arguably been avoided for a number of reasons due to players’ mindset.

What do you mean?


Was the injury self induced? Poor technique/wrong mindset from Weiters on bumping De Goey? Could the injury have been avoided? Either by team system or other options on approaching the contest?

Are they rhetorical questions?

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:38 am 
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FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!


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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 7:32 am 
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Jesus, I'd be rapt if we get 2 wins from those 4


It’s 5 games. I’m banking on us beating the cheats and west coast. Then I’m hoping we can nab one of Richmond, Freo at home, Saints. Harry should be back for 3 of those games


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:26 am 
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The problem now is the workload on those left standing.

MSD needs to provide relief


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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As much as I'd like to hope there'll be a ready-to-go KPD sitting at our pick 13 in the MSD, I suspect we need to temper our expectations. I reckon the MSD will provide about as much relief to our list as a couple of panadol would to someone who's just had brain surgery.


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snakehips wrote:
As much as I'd like to hope there'll be a ready-to-go KPD sitting at our pick 13 in the MSD, I suspect we need to temper our expectations. I reckon the MSD will provide about as much relief to our list as a couple of panadol would to someone who's just had brain surgery.


Keogh called.

He said the next Matthew Pavlich will be available at pick 14.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!

Apparently. Or it’s the fault of the team system.

It reminds me of when Cunningham did his knee and someone said it was Teague’s fault. :roll:

Why does something always have to be someone’s fault?!!

Sometimes, shit just happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:47 am 
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muzza wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!

Apparently. Or it’s the fault of the team system.

It reminds me of when Cunningham did his knee and someone said it was Teague’s fault. :roll:

Why does something always have to be someone’s fault?!!

Sometimes, shit just happens.

I still blame Trump...for everything.


I was impressed with the way Weitering went for De Goey like a rhino protecting its baby but there weren't many other players in the vicinity who could stop him and they were off - Weitering saved a goal IIRC.
HOWEVER, I agree, he shouldn't have been the guy in the middle of the field, closest to De Goey - we should have had other players in that area and playing closer to de Goey.

Also, in countering Peter Wright, I hope the brains trust is looking at how Port Adelaide's Tom Clurey (193cm) basically rendered him impotent, primarily by playing him from in front body-on-body. I'd even think about SOS to fill a role - or be ready for a Plan B if for example Kemp can't handle it on the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Wowee…!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!

Apparently. Or it’s the fault of the team system.

It reminds me of when Cunningham did his knee and someone said it was Teague’s fault. :roll:

Why does something always have to be someone’s fault?!!

Sometimes, shit just happens.


But shit can be avoided. The situation begs the question why, and how it could have been prevented. This situation exposed us. Why was it that Weiters had to put the bump on De Goey? Such scrutiny will serve the team in good stead.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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BlueJean wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!

Apparently. Or it’s the fault of the team system.

It reminds me of when Cunningham did his knee and someone said it was Teague’s fault. :roll:

Why does something always have to be someone’s fault?!!

Sometimes, shit just happens.


But shit can be avoided. The situation begs the question why, and how it could have been prevented. This situation exposed us. Why was it that Weiters had to put the bump on De Goey? Such scrutiny will serve the team in good stead.

I’m all for scrutiny but it needs to be targeted at the right things. The Weitering incident was relatively innocuous - he went when it was his turn and he got hurt. He was unlucky, dozens of things like that happen in footy every week. It’s a contact sport with many collisions and variables. There’s plenty of other things I would rather the coaches focus on than that incident.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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maybe a memo - could the bottom 6 players please put their bodies on the line, top 6 players, no need to tackle, bump etc." ?

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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When I look at the (long term) injury list especially the defensive unit it p#sses me even more about L.Jones' decision to p#ss off.

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
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Yeah but if he was still on our list he'd probably be injured too.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:06 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
BlueJean wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
FMD are we really victim blaming players for getting injured whilst going for a bump?!

Apparently. Or it’s the fault of the team system.

It reminds me of when Cunningham did his knee and someone said it was Teague’s fault. :roll:

Why does something always have to be someone’s fault?!!

Sometimes, shit just happens.


But shit can be avoided. The situation begs the question why, and how it could have been prevented. This situation exposed us. Why was it that Weiters had to put the bump on De Goey? Such scrutiny will serve the team in good stead.

I’m all for scrutiny but it needs to be targeted at the right things. The Weitering incident was relatively innocuous - he went when it was his turn and he got hurt. He was unlucky, dozens of things like that happen in footy every week. It’s a contact sport with many collisions and variables. There’s plenty of other things I would rather the coaches focus on than that incident.


I beg to differ. At the time of watching the collision, I thought it was a mistake to bump De Goey, who is a solid unit. Looking back on review, I think Weiters should have gone for the ball rather than the man. There is brave and there is careless. Fine line, but if he had his time again, I think he’d go for the ball. Now the team is compromised by this mistake for six weeks. Hope Weiters returns playing to his best again.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:13 pm 
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Marchbank, Young and Plowman isn't the end of the world.

Speaking the obvious but winning against Ess becomes absolutely essential. Have to win the games we are expected to win. Lose these and we don't deserve to play finals. No excuses given our midfield is in tact.


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Blaming Weiters for his injury is absurd.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Paddycripps wrote:
Marchbank, Young and Plowman isn't the end of the world.

Speaking the obvious but winning against Ess becomes absolutely essential. Have to win the games we are expected to win. Lose these and we don't deserve to play finals. No excuses given our midfield is in tact.

Marchbank is fantasy land stuff. He’s unavailable. Indefinitely, perpetually.

Kemp, Plowman & Young is what we’ve got for the next 6-7 weeks.

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