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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:50 pm 
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We have 13 players unavailable, the majority of teams in the top 8 or in contention have less than 5 unavailable.


Not if you ask opposition supporters on social media. Apparently every team has this many injuries and manages OK, plus all of our injury list are D-Grade nobodies. :garthp:

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:35 pm 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
the tradition continues another player recruited with a serious injury ,our recruiting /drafting is so disappointing . hope club fix problem permanent ready for 2023 regarding George 1/2 weeks BULLSHIT


George Hewett games per season:

2016: 24
2017: 24
2018: 23
2019: 22
2020: 6
2021: 21
2022: 15*

No red flags there IMO, just the Carlton bug.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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bondiblue wrote:
back ended Buddy contract.


I was offered one of those in the Cross once.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Poof…!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:43 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
back ended Buddy contract.


I was offered one of those in the Cross once.

The whole nine?

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:50 am 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
the tradition continues another player recruited with a serious injury ,our recruiting /drafting is so disappointing . hope club fix problem permanent ready for 2023 regarding George 1/2 weeks BULLSHIT



I'm pretty sure every player in the comp has been injured at some stage in their teens and in their 20's.

If not, they would be less than 1% of the 700 players playing every year.

Life goes on after injury. Gawn 2 knee reconstructions. You should see his last 3 contracts post knee surgery.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:20 am 
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Durability is so important when attempting to win premierships. Good injury runs definitely make a difference.

No point having quality players if they can’t get on the park.

We recruited McGovern, Williams and Martin on big coin who all had a history of durability issues.

Not sure if that is smart recruiting. You can carry a few with long term injury issues but we have too many. Marchbank is another example when the return on investment has been poor.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:10 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
jpulice1969 wrote:
the tradition continues another player recruited with a serious injury ,our recruiting /drafting is so disappointing . hope club fix problem permanent ready for 2023 regarding George 1/2 weeks BULLSHIT


George Hewett games per season:

2016: 24
2017: 24
2018: 23
2019: 22
2020: 6
2021: 21
2022: 15*

No red flags there IMO, just the Carlton bug.


Exactly. He was a solid citizen at Sydney.

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:23 pm 
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Hewett gone for the year. Disaster.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:28 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Hewett gone for the year. Disaster.


Expected.

He missed 6 or 8 weeks at the Swans when it flared up after a bad hit.

Get him to wear a Titanium shield next year so when those prix aim to maim Hewett again, as directed by their coach, they hurt their knee instead of Hewett.

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
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Peter Dean forearm guard style.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:30 pm 
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WOW wrote:
Durability is so important when attempting to win premierships. Good injury runs definitely make a difference.

No point having quality players if they can’t get on the park.

We recruited McGovern, Williams and Martin on big coin who all had a history of durability issues.

Not sure if that is smart recruiting. You can carry a few with long term injury issues but we have too many. Marchbank is another example when the return on investment has been poor.


Fair points but I’ll raise you a Daniher, McCarthy and Cockatoo at Brisbane
All with histories of durability issues and all magically fixed when they went to Brisbane
Maybe our fitness/high performance or whatever they call that department these days needs fixing
Russell is on big coin and I am sure some will point to Charlie but @#$%&! me this shit has gone on too long and it’s really really hurting us


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:34 pm 
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Injury/unavailable numbers of top 10 Teams at start of Round 22

GEELONG - (7) **note: 3 of those are concussion
COLLINGWOOD - (7)
MELBOURNE - (4)
SYDNEY - (4)
BRISBANE - (6) **note: 2 of those are concussion
FREMANTLE - (5)
CARLTON - (14) **note: 1 of those is concussion / Cripps suspended
RICHMOND - (5) **note: 1 of those is concussion

ST KILDA - (7)
BULLDOGS - (6) **note: 2 of those are concussion

We have f$%^n Fourteen unavailable ..... there's several teams out there that are blessed

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 pm 
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We simply had too many injuries for too long, and not enough depth to cover the injured players themselves, or the players forced into other positions.

Then as soon as we got some players back, another crop got injured.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:04 pm 
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Interesting that there was no update re. Kennedy in yesterday's report.

Also Durdin was listed as unavailable for selection in last week's report, yet was named the sub and came on and looked good.

Wonder if Kennedy's a sneaky chance to come back early?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:12 pm 
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I was wondering about that. It would be great if we could get him back for next week's game, along with 1 or 2 others.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:40 pm 
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Carlton needs to win one more game to make the eight. They will have to do so without their fearless leader and half their starting midfield … and at least 14 unavailable players pending this week’s medical report.


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Sam Walsh and Adam Cerra remain from the first-choice on-ball unit and will be forced to carry a heavy load.

Paddy Dow was poor in his second game of the year against Brisbane, but simply must keep his spot and take on that third spot in the starting midfield rotation.

Zac Fisher will likely also continue to rotate through as he has done this year.

Beyond that? How do the Blues compete with the size and power of Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver and Jack Viney?

Ed Curnow would be nice, but he suffered a hamstring setback in the VFL. David Cuningham also remains sidelined as he returns from a torn ACL.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/09/how-does-carlton-replace-key-midfield-trio-for-do-or-die-fortnight-of-footy/

You can't be expected to play at your best with so many injuries. I dont care how big ones heart is.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:57 pm 
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Navy One wrote:
Injury/unavailable numbers of top 10 Teams at start of Round 22

GEELONG - (7) **note: 3 of those are concussion
COLLINGWOOD - (7)
MELBOURNE - (4)
SYDNEY - (4)
BRISBANE - (6) **note: 2 of those are concussion
FREMANTLE - (5)
CARLTON - (14) **note: 1 of those is concussion / Cripps suspended
RICHMOND - (5) **note: 1 of those is concussion

ST KILDA - (7)
BULLDOGS - (6) **note: 2 of those are concussion

We have f$%^n Fourteen unavailable ..... there's several teams out there that are blessed

Ignoring suspensions & ‘test’, there’s half a dozen, at most, that might be called upon in this situation.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:14 pm 
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WOW wrote:
Durability is so important when attempting to win premierships. Good injury runs definitely make a difference.

No point having quality players if they can’t get on the park.

We recruited McGovern, Williams and Martin on big coin who all had a history of durability issues.

Not sure if that is smart recruiting. You can carry a few with long term injury issues but we have too many. Marchbank is another example when the return on investment has been poor.



Including Marchbank is harsh. He had a broken vertebrae and a knee reconstruction. Both those injuries are just bad luck, nothing to do with any previous ongoing injury issues. Williams certainly had calf injuries at GWS but I do not think McGoverns soft tissue injuries relate to any history. More likely his injuries are related to not being fit enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:20 pm 
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Ignoring suspensions & ‘test’, there’s half a dozen, at most, that might be called upon in this situation.



Injuries to second choice players still hurt though.

A lot of the time we're replacing firsts with thirds

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