Blue Vain wrote:
A good coach can definitely improve the organisation but a poor coach has the potential to have far more impact.
I reckon you made that post with a particular coach in mind...
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| Author: | keogh [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
I was thinking the other day about this given the recent events with the Australian Cricket Team and the recently released information regarding Simon Goodwin. With so many coaches now does it matter as much who is the head coach. Carlton have certainly emphasized the importance by sacking the last six people who have been given the privilege position or the poison chalice before their contract was up. It seems there are two things at play here 1 The collective coaching group is the important thing. What is one person’s weakness is compensated by another’s strength. No better example than Simon Goodwin /Choco Williams , Justin Langer/ Andrew Mc Donald. And collectively what the coaching group can come up with that is innovative and sets us apart from the other 17 teams 2 How the leaders of the playing group play such a pivotal role in getting the best out of the playing group I have made no secret in my desire to have Jacob Weitering as captain with Sam Walsh his deputy. Cripps is not captain material. Too much like one of the boys. He doesn’t demand the highest standards from his teammates. At least that’s the impression I get. Weitering and Walsh look to me to have the traits to get the best out of this playing group To be honest it’s not about win and losses for me but not accepting unfit players and soft acts. And taking action not just saying it. |
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| Author: | Heavs [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
To me the only two qualities a great head coach needs are to be an exceptional communicator and a very good personnel manager. I'm sure they can have input, but all the day to day stuff is done by line coaches. You need to be able to harness them and have them pulling in the same direction and be able to manage the media/be the club figurehead. |
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| Author: | jezzarules [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
The head coach still needs to know what direction to have everyone working in. |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
It matters, but it isn't the only thing. Can't just have a gun coach and crap/mediocre other off-field staff. Its how they all work together to achieve the best environment to get the best out of the players, and there is no one size fits all. But you need board/CEO and coach all alligned in terms of purpose. You can't really compare a cricket coach to an AFL coach, AFL coach has always had more power/influence than coaches in cricket. |
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
A good coach can definitely improve the organisation but a poor coach has the potential to have far more impact. |
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| Author: | GWS [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
Blue Vain wrote: A good coach can definitely improve the organisation but a poor coach has the potential to have far more impact. I reckon you made that post with a particular coach in mind...
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| Author: | Mickstar [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
If your top dog is a gun it flows from there . No debate for mine . Your number one man has to be a gun . Only one man steers the ship . ..................history tells you the top coaches continually turn over there assistants . |
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| Author: | keogh [ Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
Mickstar wrote: If your top dog is a gun it flows from there . No debate for mine . Your number one man has to be a gun . Only one man steers the ship . ..................history tells you the top coaches continually turn over there assistants . So how did Australia cricket win the t 20 World Cup I won’t include the ashes because England were plain shit |
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| Author: | murraycray [ Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
For mine Australia's World Cup win at Tippety Runs cricket means Jack Shit. Tippety Runs cricket is a bastardisation of the game. We may as well have a World Cup in AFLX. Equally pointless. |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
keogh wrote: Mickstar wrote: If your top dog is a gun it flows from there . No debate for mine . Your number one man has to be a gun . Only one man steers the ship . ..................history tells you the top coaches continually turn over there assistants . So how did Australia cricket win the t 20 World Cup I won’t include the ashes because England were plain shit Langer took backseat and essentially McDonald and di Venuto took over. Not sure why keep a coach like langer for another 3-4 years to essentially not coach. |
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| Author: | Mickstar [ Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
keogh wrote: Mickstar wrote: If your top dog is a gun it flows from there . No debate for mine . Your number one man has to be a gun . Only one man steers the ship . ..................history tells you the top coaches continually turn over there assistants . So how did Australia cricket win the t 20 World Cup I won’t include the ashes because England were plain shit Check what Chats said ................... anyhow , AFL aint cricket and i suggest you refer to the great AFL coaches and you will see what i mean . |
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| Author: | keogh [ Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
The point I was making was that perhaps the role of the senior coach in top level sport whatever sport your talking about isn’t as important now because there are so many coaches at a club and that the culture is largely driven by the playing group. That’s why your leaders within the playing group are more important than the senior coach these days. Langer was obviously too autocratic and too old school. The one thing constant in life is change. Another constant is the revolving door of senior coaches at Carlton One thing the club must be on field above anything else is to be harder. We were a soft team under Teague. How much is that accountability driven by your player leadership and by your senior coach? |
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| Author: | bluehammer [ Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
Captain in cricket far more important than coach. Coach in footy far more important than captain. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
keogh wrote: The point I was making was that perhaps the role of the senior coach in top level sport whatever sport your talking about isn’t as important now because there are so many coaches at a club and that the culture is largely driven by the playing group. That’s why your leaders within the playing group are more important than the senior coach these days. Langer was obviously too autocratic and too old school. The one thing constant in life is change. Another constant is the revolving door of senior coaches at Carlton One thing the club must be on field above anything else is to be harder. We were a soft team under Teague. How much is that accountability driven by your player leadership and by your senior coach? As Vossy said yesterday, he, as the Head Coach, has his hands on the levers to make changes during the game. Its his call, after I expect a more democratic process than was the case in the old days. The Coaching group work on a lot of each others ideas during the preseason that I wouldn't be surprised if an Assistant has a light bulb moment during the game, and the Head Coach decides to go with that. Ultimately there's only one decision maker in the Coaches Box. But what I'd like to know is the consultation process during the game, if it takes place like Cummings does with his vice captains warner and smith? Does Cripps have influence in the Coaches Box. I think we have a modern coach in the Box we can trust in 2022, moreso than we've had in the last decade or two. IMO |
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| Author: | Crusader [ Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
bluehammer wrote: Captain in cricket far more important than coach. Coach in footy far more important than captain. Yep. It all boils down to control - the ability to impact the flow of the game. The assistants & runners are all agents for the head coach. |
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| Author: | kingkerna [ Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How important is the head coach in top level sport now? |
More important than ever. Sent from my SM-G986B using Tapatalk |
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