our problem is we are to slow , we need quick players that can run and carry the ball (Qanior and noble ) from ferals Unfortunately ,we have players that are slow so when they get the ball just bomb it straight to opposition turnover goal . Nick Austin has to recruit players that are suited for MCG not marvel .

$3.2 mill on Walsh/Cripps/McKay/Curnow as an absolute best case scenario
$2.9 mill using the figures you've used for Saad/Gov/Williams/Weitering, which I think are pretty spot on.
TDK will get decent coin - if Luke Jackson is getting $1-1.2 mill a year, I don't think it unrealistic for TDK to expect 800 with a similar contract length.

Cap will be approx. $14 mill on average over the next 3 years. So best case scenario is half on the top 9, perhaps just short of 2/3 depending on where the cap increases lay over the next few years.

Galty, you're the numbers man.

Govs contract ends next year.

Trade TDK if $800 is his asking price.
I guarantee he wont get anything near that at Geelong.
Stanley, Blicavs, Ratogolea types will serve them just fine as pseudo rucks around $500K or less.

I would put money on it that Jackson doesnt get $1M....and he's a pick 3 from the 2019 draft, TDK is pick 30 because we pulled the trigger.

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Yeah, it's a tricky one, and not sure I have a horse to back. Too many variables and unknowns.

Not prepared to back Pitto absolutely in.
I think TDK gets that money on the open market. I don't necessarily think he's worth it. There's bugger all options for ruck/fwds. I'd probably pay it if the alternative is Lobb/Himmelberg/Ratogolea.

Then from a Harry vs. TDK perspective, I think spending that money on TDK probably has better upside than Harry who I reckon we'd be lucky to get three more years of good footy out of, and will probably pay for four or five at top dollar.

Can see why the alternative of just deferring to find VFL/SANFL types of some note is far easier.

Time for some home truths about some of these ridiculous List Management decisions given the evidence is building up with time.
Whilst I’m happy with 12 wins this year it doesn’t hide the sad fact that some of our recruiting decisions have been monumentally catastrophically shit.
Jack Martin 27 years old 36 out of 59 games played 5 year deal worth around 3.5 million acquired through the pre season draft.

Martin was meant to give us midfield run.What he has delivered in three years is a couple of cameo quarters up forward. Soft at the contest and is simply not fit enough.

Will Setterfield 24 years of age 53 out of 83 games played given 2 deals adding up to 5 years on around $300000. Traded for a future second rounder and pick 43.

Another who meant to give us midfield grunt. Doesn’t go in hard enough so it’s off to the wing where he is too slow and a terrible kick. Was bigger than most kids at Under 18 level. Smart recruiters wouldn’t be sucked into he TAC form.

Mitch McGovern 27 years of age 38 out of 83 games played. On a five year deal worth $3.5 million
Gave up Shane McAdam pick 26 ,28 a future fifth rounder in return for a future third rounder and Magic Mitch’s services
Looking like the worst of the lot
His body is as brittle as a warmchickenbone. Meant to ba forward. Now down back and as usual totally one dimensional. Good pack mark . Beautiful kick . That’s it. And McAdam has been better than anything we have dished up in the small forward territory.

Adam Saad 28 41 out of 42 games played on around 3.2 million over 5 years Traded for pick 8 and 81 . We did acquire 48 and 78
Easily the best of the sorry bunch but at 28 must become more versatile
We need him further up the ground. Opposition know how important he is to our structure as evidenced by the last fortnight. And we gave up a first rounder. Too much for just a HB

Zac Williams 27 years of age 22 out of 42 games played restricted free agent On around a staggering 850000 a season over six years.
Was meant to bolster our leg speed through the middle. Struggled to get double digit possessions there so it’s back to defence. Not fit enough last year. Injury prone this year. What the @#$%&! was the club thinking.

Adam Cerra 22 years of age 17 out of 20 games 4 year deal between 500000 and 600000 a season.Gave up pick 6 and a future third rounder.
Cerra was Fremantle’s 5 th best mid after Mundy, Fyfe, Brayshaw and Serong.
Is still the fifth best mid at Carlton after Cripps Hewitt Walsh and Kennedy
Needs to get better given what we gave up

like i have said in the past sos great player ,but as a recruiter he has really stuffed it , sps,dow,lob bad. that is only 3 players. I just hope Austin nails it this year and so far boyd injured .young slow soft , hayes 27 yrs old, but he choose durdin and motlop (smalls ) good .

Shane McAdam is trash - absolute trash - and the primary reason this record of yours is irredeemably broken.

McGovern has been paid more than he’s earned and this intercept role is for certain the end of the line. The picks to get him were frivolously spent, like tipping 20% to a Subway sandwich artist. But the continued harping on about some D Grader being our salvation is straight up lunacy.

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If McAdam is a d grader what letter do you put next to Martin

Go back to those drafts and look who was picked after or around those picks and how the players were rated beforehand. The other question is how much is dependent on the culture and coaching they walk into?

Hey….

get Grundy…Cripps and Fish will be getting
Team Rampage back together…!


kindest regards tommi

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C for Clutching at straws.

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Yup Grundy the Ruckman / tall midfielder would be the ticket, revamp and transform our midfield instantly to a potent attacking unit.

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Just throwing it out there.

And yet here we are having a crack about front loaded contracts and players not playing full seasons on allegedly too much money.
At least they're at our club.

Fish and Cripps?

We'll batter them

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Congratulations CK95

WHY I ORRRTA….!


KINDEST REGARds tommi

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Congratulations CK95

And maybe that’s why they have changed the way they look at their recruiting
Both deals were ridiculous as well

Grundy for picks and a heap of money or
Goldstein for free and less money?

I'd go Goldstein who could easily play for another 2-3 years while Mirkov develops

He signed this contract in 2020 and yet you keep referring to contracts at the club well before then.
Also, you don't think that a 2 time all-Australian ruck in his prime was not worth that at the time of signing?