What weapons did Setterfield have?

Right on FB!!

Acres also said last week that Vossy wanted the same as what he produced for freo this year, and will see some midfield minutes as an inside mid: share the load, and plenty going through the middle to keep them fresh and competitive.

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Setterfield was horrible. Lacked urgency. Can't kick

Could have walked him to PSD, so to get anything is a bonus

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Go Blues

Weapons of mass vanilla

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#DonTheStash

Typical Keogh argument.

Keogh: "Did you talk up Setterfield?...."

BV: Well in fact I've been challenged in recent days for saying the club did the right thing moving him on.

Keogh: Not to worry, I'll pretend you're talking him up anyway.......

"What weapons did Setterfield have
Name them"

BV: Not enough weapons. As he's approaching 25 and can't nail down a spot, the club was right to let him go.

Keogh: Not to worry, I'll pretend you're talking him up anyway.......

"Yet you still Trott out the same shit even when the powers to be at the club think he is shit too"

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Let's build a Visy centre of excellence for the development of late rookie picks.

Would that make everyone happy?
We could finance it with a few pokies.

Give me your view about Will Setterfield based on his 5 years at Carlton ?
You know my thoughts
And while your at it if you want tell us what to do with “ The Gov” if he produces similar stuff in 2023 when his contract expires

And low calorie

This is the only relevant reason for the pick swap imo.

We can make up stuff like suggesting Austin/Carlton wanting to find a home for Setterfield without the embarrassment/tarnish delisting brings with it, or, tried to avoid the taunts that may have come SOS' way, regarding his midfield failings...but we're making it up. The abovementioned thought is reasonable.

I also like Bluey 44's suggestion too:




He's gone. we move on. One day we will find out more from Austin, or even Setterfield.

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sos recruiting another failure setters and Dow who no one wanted . Tipping a big year for dow in 2023 though. Austin hasn't really impressed me ,everything he has done at this stage is very simple /basic that i could have done his job.

I was a fan of Setterfield from his TAC days.

At that time, he had obvious AFL talent. You don't go Pick 5 without showing something.

He won the contested ball, had terrific vision in traffic, he was neat and tidy with his disposal and by all accounts had some leadership potential. On top of that he was a great size and decent athlete. He had the dreaded 'P' word potential, as an 18yr old.

Alas at 25, what he never developed was intensity and a fiercely competitive nature to dominate stoppages and games. He is too good for the VFL and yet his lack of physicality and intensity held him back at AFL level. Some players just don't have that in their makeup.

Keogh he is not a dud. Just like many, many before him, he has so far failed to get the very best out of himself. The penny just hasn't dropped yet and he is far from alone in that regard.

He has frustrated me no end in 2022. He could have secured his spot for the foreseeable future in out best 22 if only.......if only. He could play LOB on a break, if he just applied himself physically. LOB played most of the year and Setters got the bit parts.

His 3 years at Carlton were very disappointing, in that he didn't take those extra steps.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Good thing we have moved on from those days.

SOS failed more than he succeeded.
He couldn't get the right mids, and couldnt attract big targets over (Cognilio, Shiel) thank god.

Liddle is gone and with that his meddling in Footy Dept business.

Judd the footy director at the time is gone too. He didnt seem to have much influence on list and development.

So to a degree MLG failed along with, Liddle, SOS, Teague and Judd failed.

Sayers Williams Voss and Cook with Austin as list mgr look the goods.

What I find incredible ids the dozen players from other teams that make our best 23 strong as it is along with players from picks # 1, 1, 10 & 12 over 5 years (and 30 picks in the draft)

What it says to me is it wont take long to bring in and develop good depth players when we get rid of the fringe players.

We may just well have TDK, Carroll, Kemp, Philp, Honey, Cottrell, Durdin pick 10 & Cuningham bashing down the door in 2023 and have the likes of Newman, Plowman, McGovern/Marchbank, OBrien, Martin, Fisher, Owies, Dow & Sam Durdin as our depth players, along with the few of the abovementioned door bashers. That's not bad depth imo....in fact, its damn good.

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Yep this pretty much it up.

Setters has most of the tools but lacks intent.

I'd hazard a guess he is a bit introverted as a person.

You could add, he has also had 3 different coaches at the club since he was here, so not only was there no continuity in coaching like said clubs, there were no defined roles or structures for his attributes, hardly an environment to excel and get the best out of yourself if you needed the support.
I'd argue to say it's an issue of both player and circumstance.

So he doesn't need to use punctuation either?

I like your optimism though in that another failure who no one wants is going to have a big year in 2023.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

A good inside mid just thinks about getting the ball
The don’t worry about contact
Setterfield did when he was at Carlton
We gave up an early 2 second rounder and a third rounder and now we get a fourth rounder
It isn’t that simple but too many situations like this set you back

Punctuation is over-rated - LOL emoji/#/twitter/etc, etc.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

You win some and you lose some.

SOS did well to get us that bounty when we got Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Cuningham and Jack.
And he had some inspired mid to late draft choices (TDK says hi).

But on the downside he stuffed up the Dow and LOB draft, and the Stocker/Philp/Kemp picks look dodge right now (though Kemp looks alright I suppose), and most of his GWS plays didn't turn out to much granted many of these deals cost us little.

Yep good point.......but

Saad
Hewett
Williams
Cera
Young
Acres
Boyd and a few others, plus re-signing Crippa, Weits, Walsh, Charlie and Harry might just set you up long term.

Nobody has all hits and no misses in the AFL.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Dare I say we could compile a very long list of players that could play LOB on a break.

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