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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:12 pm 
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PS.............how is your young bloke going with his footy ? sounds like he is showing promise .


Good onya Mickstar.

Like Errol Gulden, my boys are Marcellin boys, and mad and proud Carlton fans, and in The Swans Academy.
My son's nicname since he was 6 or 7 was "Silk" because of his skills and ability to make things look easy.
Another coach in U9's named him "Diesel" because of his Carlton roots plus his ability to win ball and connect.

But, now 14, his health hasn't been good for 3 years. In bed most weekdays and gets out of bed to play footy and cricket on weekends.
Amazing the Academy have kept him on the list after cutting 20% of the squad at the end of every year for the past 3 years. They must like him.

We are not of health management now, but unless he plays for Carlton, we are not keen on him taking footy too serious.


As a father of two sons, my only takeaway from your post bondi is that I wish and hope and pray your son's health improves significantly!!! That is ALL that is important


Too right. :thumbsup:

My typo should have read, we are focussed on health management, and the footy will look after itself.
He has plenty of time and talent to make good of footy. Health and family are the priorities. We are confident we have the right specialists on the job and he will overcome this challenge as he grows.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:43 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
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Don’t be surprised if Setterfield is at Geelong next year. I’ll spew but good luck to him.

Let’s hope so. They’ve been generous trade partners in the past.


They have? Other than Hickmott from 25 years ago who else would you consider as a fair trade? Buyer beware with the cats l say!

We received late first round picks for Tuohy & Henderson.


We gave back our future second for Tuohy and had to take Smedts


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:14 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
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Don’t be surprised if Setterfield is at Geelong next year. I’ll spew but good luck to him.

Let’s hope so. They’ve been generous trade partners in the past.


They have? Other than Hickmott from 25 years ago who else would you consider as a fair trade? Buyer beware with the cats l say!

We received late first round picks for Tuohy & Henderson.


We gave back our future second for Tuohy and had to take Smedts


It was a joke of a trade. We gave up a bottom 2nd round pick for a top end 1st round. Difference was 4 spots, if that. Then took Smedts and pick 68 ..... - I still despise this trade.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:15 am 
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Geelong made Tuohy. He was a very generous 2nd round value when he was with us.

Smedts was piss, but we were paying 95% at the time. You get what you pay for.

If we were paying 100%, Tuohy probably stays… then leaves as a free agent for nothing, because the joint is a rabble.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:29 pm 
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Brent Sanderson feels the same as I do about our list.

We are ready to start our Campaign for the 17th Flag by play Finals next year and for years to come.

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Brenton Sanderson said he struggles to find a weakness in Carlton’s list, saying he is “really bullish” about their prospects in 2023.

The Blues started the season winning eight of their first 10 games, but sensationally missed the top eight after losing four straight to close out their campaign.

Despite not featuring in finals this year, Sanderson doesn't believe Carlton needs to improve much, saying the club has done a “fantastic job” in building its list.

“I can’t find anywhere (where they need to improve),” he said on AFL Trade Radio’s Trade Afternoons.

“I’m really bullish about the Blues and I loved watching them play this year. Yes they didn’t play off in the finals and weren’t able to clear those last hurdles, but their list profile is excellent.

“They’ve done a fantastic job, they’re young and are stacked with talent. I can’t find a weakness.

“They’re already made some list changes and they’re good players they’ve let go as well – players like Liam Stocker, Tom Williamson and Oscar McDonald.

“I just can’t find a weakness.”


Lets go Blues.

Add Acres, get Pittonet fit and firing and TDK taking the next step, and build some stronger bodies over the preseason whilst Voss adds layers to the game plan.....up, up and away.

Nothing but Blue Skies.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:07 pm 
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Our small forwards and wings need to improve and the injury prone quarter of McGovern, Marchbank, Martin and Williams need to stay fit and healthy.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:27 pm 
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Our small forwards and wings need to improve and the injury prone quarter of McGovern, Marchbank, Martin and Williams need to stay fit and healthy.

Plus you win Tatts Paddy and it will all come together nicely. :smile:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:41 pm 
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Geelong made Tuohy. He was a very generous 2nd round value when he was with us.

Smedts was piss, but we were paying 95% at the time. You get what you pay for.

If we were paying 100%, Tuohy probably stays… then leaves as a free agent for nothing, because the joint is a rabble.


What a load of crock.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:14 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
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Our small forwards and wings need to improve and the injury prone quarter of McGovern, Marchbank, Martin and Williams need to stay fit and healthy.

Plus you win Tatts Paddy and it will all come together nicely. :smile:

At the end of last year many of us thought Cripps and Charlie were cooked.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:23 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
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Our small forwards and wings need to improve and the injury prone quarter of McGovern, Marchbank, Martin and Williams need to stay fit and healthy.

Plus you win Tatts Paddy and it will all come together nicely. :smile:

At the end of last year many of us thought Cripps and Charlie were cooked.

Can't take a joke, boy.

Anyway by our track record, our chances of the players mentioned all being fit at the same time, for a substantial period of time would be more than a blessing. If they are, we will have more than a chance of ending up in the GF.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:26 pm 
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Club also need to decide who the 3rd forward is, fitness permitting.

Can we play TDK, Pitto, Charlie and Harry in the one side?
Didn't appear to work terribly well this year.
Jack is a better forward right now. Plays the lead up role on the wing well, becomes a good conduit.
And he has more agility and skill closer to goal.
But then TDK is a better 2nd ruck (obviously) and threatens to become a dominant forward in the air.
But his kicking stinks.
I think if TDK has a big summer and takes the step up then Jack might find himself ion the VFL.
If it goes that he he needs to develop a tank and become even more versatile, playing midfield to add to forward and second ruck. He has shwon he can play onball at stages.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:07 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Club also need to decide who the 3rd forward is, fitness permitting.

Can we play TDK, Pitto, Charlie and Harry in the one side?
Didn't appear to work terribly well this year.
Jack is a better forward right now. Plays the lead up role on the wing well, becomes a good conduit.
And he has more agility and skill closer to goal.
But then TDK is a better 2nd ruck (obviously) and threatens to become a dominant forward in the air.
But his kicking stinks.
I think if TDK has a big summer and takes the step up then Jack might find himself ion the VFL.
If it goes that he he needs to develop a tank and become even more versatile, playing midfield to add to forward and second ruck. He has shwon he can play onball at stages.



JSOS has a tank, but he's not quick. He is more agile than Pitto, but that's about it imo.
He faded badly imo. Maybe the ruck took too much out of him.
He was more effective, imo, for the team when Pitto and TDK were in the team.
I dont consider JSOS a reliable kick at goal. Ditto TDK.
TDK more likely to take a mark in the forwardline, or bring it to the ground than JSOS.

We played our most consistent footy when Pitto was playing before injury.
Harry TDK and Charlie were playing too.

If we do take Schache, he will be back up KPD/F/Ruck.
I think JSOS will be depth and expect him to clock up his 100th game.

TDK needs to take the next step. He faded before being dropped.
Needs to get stronger and fitter and improve his ruckwork and kicking, and he should.
JSOS was dropped too.

The writing is on the wall for JSOS if Pitto and TDK are fit and firing.
He's not going to get quicker or taller, and only played 2nd ruck because Pitto was injured, and later in the year because TDK faded away.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:25 pm 
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i would train tdk as a back. He may get inspiration from his bro.
Jsos was broken down due to the ruck work. He is best as a pressure and link up forward.

I dont like people writing JSOS off. We need work horses like him.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:57 pm 
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jsos leave him forward no ruck very smart footballer,we need or Austin needs to find players that can deliver to our fwds


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:03 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
i would train tdk as a back. He may get inspiration from his bro.
Jsos was broken down due to the ruck work. He is best as a pressure and link up forward.

I dont like people writing JSOS off. We need work horses like him.


I am not "writing JSOS" off. He still has a place on our list, and he will play senior footy next year. We will have injuries.
Every single player who wears that Navy Blue jumper has to be a workhorse, and I think they are all on the same page, and IMHO injury has had a say in output.
But. every player has shortfalls/ weaknesses, and that applies to him too.
Do you think JSOS has no weaknesses? Tell me that if that's what you believe and tell me I am wrong.

I think he has weaknesses, and I'm just stating imo that is his lack of speed allows his opponents to run away from him , creating an extra ahead of the play,(and there's quicker players who can provide better forward pressure than JSOS), and, I believe he struggles to mark the ball one on one. I think he's an "in-betweener", and there's other players who are better marks and more dangerous forwards than JSOS...

I don't think Voss did the wrong thing dropping JSOS when Pitto and TDK were both fit and JSOS was struggling.
Now I may be wrong, but I'm putting it out there to see what others think.

I understand the emotional connection fans have with his "Heart and Soul" qualities, and so did David King in the Herald sun after round 4, and I agreed with King at the time. Things change. Injury catches up with players, and other players evolve, improve and displace.

But I don't know how JSOS "heart and soul tag" trumps a faster big man, or a better mark than him, especially now that Voss is inspiring players to run through brick walls.

Bottom line is there's 23 spots in the team, and I believe there will be a time when JSOS will not be in that team for the reasons Ive given, and it happened vs Adelaide this year. I didnt drop him. Younger players will continue to improve and pass him. Its only natural. You have to get use to that.

I hope he finds some speed to add to his "weapons". We should discuss his strengths and his weknesses. It wont make a difference to JSOS what we think, but that's what fan forums are about. I'm genuinely interested because JSOS is a conundrum

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:02 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Club also need to decide who the 3rd forward is, fitness permitting.

Can we play TDK, Pitto, Charlie and Harry in the one side?
Didn't appear to work terribly well this year.



We won 3 of the first 4 games with them in the side (with Pittonet) together including wins against Richmond and Bulldogs. It worked OK until we fell apart with injuries.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:41 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Club also need to decide who the 3rd forward is, fitness permitting.

Can we play TDK, Pitto, Charlie and Harry in the one side?
Didn't appear to work terribly well this year.



We won 3 of the first 4 games with them in the side (with Pittonet) together including wins against Richmond and Bulldogs. It worked OK until we fell apart with injuries.


I think it works well when all up and running. A fit Pittonet makes us better.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:18 pm 
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Geelong has obviously got a great culture
But their recruiting is quite amazing
Very few top 10 picks In their premiership team
Dangerfield was obviously helped given he wanted to come back
The picks they gave up for Cameron were really from the Tim Kelly trade
Kelly was a pick 24 from South Freo
Stengle was a great pick up
It’s a pity Betts didn’t stay to help our indigenous players as a mentor and role model
The number of late and rookie pick is really quite staggering even given their cultural standing plus being around some star mature players
Geelong are the benchmark for all clubs in most areas off field not just List Management


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:19 pm 
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How many City kids do they have? Not many. Smart recruiting.


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