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Paddycripps wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

I'm hopeless at positioning and understanding how mids are used, but reckon we have some serious depth now.

Newman Jones Stocker
Kemp Weitering Saad
Williams Cripps LOB
Cerra Charlie Honey
Silvagni McKay Martin

Pittonet Walsh Hewett

I/c from: TDK, Ed, Kennedy, Owies, Fisher, Dow, Young, Plowman, McGov, Fogarty

Others: Durdin, Newnes, Williamson, Setterfield, Parks, Philp, Mirkov, Carroll, Boyd

Didn't consider Marchbank, Cunners or Docherty due to injury/illness.

Midfield rotation involving Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, Williams, Ed, Kennedy.

Happy for that to be torn apart.

Exciting times!

Cunners is back running. He's working hard as we speak.

Brilliant news. :gift:

He's a bonus.

How do you know?

The speed of Cuningham and Philp really gives us weapons

bondiblue wrote:

Paddycripps wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

Cunners is back running. He's working hard as we speak.

Brilliant news. :gift:

He's a bonus.

How do you know?

The speed of Cuningham and Philp really gives us weapons

I saw him running on the oval outside PP. He and a number of other players mainly those who had injuries. Call it the recovery group I guess.

McGovern Jones Newman
Saad JW Williams
Dow Cripps Stocker
Jack S Curnow Jack M
Honey McKay TDK

Pitto Cerra Walsh

InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp

london blue wrote:

McGovern Jones Newman
Saad JW Williams
Dow Cripps Stocker
Jack S Curnow Jack M
Honey McKay TDK

Pitto Cerra Walsh

InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp

Interesting.

My observations from the above:

McGovern over Plowman over Marchbank over Young

No Docherty, Cuningham and Marchbank because of injury???

TDK Pitto Gov ahead of 2021 Finals player Young.

Gov came into the team in round 21 when Carlton had 14 out injured.

Cripps isn't fast, neither is Ed, nor Kennedy and I don't think George is too much faster lends itself to a slow team, but I'm gussing your looking for players winning the hard contest, or different to last year, contesting.

Honey for Fisher, so no small forward, and Durdin understandable still undeveloped.

I wonder who your emergencies are?

If Cuners Marchy and Doc unavailable, in your team, my emergencies would be Philp, Young, Fisher and Plowman

I'm just not sure how people can list LOB in our best 22 at this stage, when he has shown clearly he is not in our best 22 and is very lucky to still be on our list.

bondiblue wrote:

london blue wrote:

McGovern Jones Newman
Saad JW Williams
Dow Cripps Stocker
Jack S Curnow Jack M
Honey McKay TDK

Pitto Cerra Walsh

InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp

Young vs McGovern - yeah, could be.

Emergencies - not interested

No doc, March or Cunningham due to injury

Last year our issue was contested ball and defensive effort - therefore think the team is quick enough - we’ll get quicker anyway by winning more of the ball

I could argue fisher, lack of a right side frustrates me

Hopefully Sam Philp can eventually roam a winge end 2022 and beyond , the youngster has a great burst of speed , good endurance , tenacity and will hunt the ball.

B: Docherty Weitering Jones
HB: Williams Marchbank Saad
C: Cerra Cripps Cunningham
R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett
HF: Martin Charlie Ellard
F: Honey Harry JSOS
I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, McInnes (Kemp)

Author:	The_Cranium [ Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:24 pm ]
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It's not won on paper, but on paper it looks strong I'll have a go. Based on everyone fit and available which never happens but for this we'll say it has. B: Docherty Weitering Jones HB: Williams Marchbank Saad C: Cerra Cripps Cunningham R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett HF: Martin Charlie Fisher F: Honey Harry JSOS I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, Newman (Kemp) In reality, Doc becomes Newman. Marchy becomes Young or shuffle and in comes my mate Plowman. Cunners becomes Fish. Honey goes to HF and Owies into the pocket. Ed slides onto the bench. Keep Kemp as medi sub. B: Newman Jones Plowman HB: Williams Weitering Saad C: Cerra Cripps Fisher R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett HF: Martin Charlie Honey F: Owies Harry JSOS I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, Ed (Kemp) I have tried to match our side to the Melbourne premiership side and find similar balance. I honestly quite like both those sides and there's plenty of depth underneath pushing for spots with injuries and form. Strong side with Ruck being the obvious weakness, but Finals must be the minimum acceptable result.

Author:	carntheblues [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:36 am ]
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Noice!

Author:	BigBlueWave [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:43 pm ]
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Assuming Doc not playing. Plowman Weitering Newman Stocker Jones Saad Dow Cripps Williams Fisher C.Curnow Martin Silvagni McKay Honey R: TDK Walsh Cerra I: Hewitt Setterfield Kennedy E.Curnow Hoping Kemp and Carroll have a big year.

Author:	Judd one son [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:39 pm ]
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FB Plowman Jones Young HB Saad Weitering (VC) Stocker C Hewett Cripps (C) Walsh HF Fisher McKay E Curnow FF Martin C Curnow Silvagni FOL Pittonet Williams Cerra INT McGovern Kennedy Newman Honey Sub Dow Docherty & Cunningham in for Newman & Dow if they were fit.

Author:	Paddycripps [ Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2022 Best 22
bondiblue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: Navy Blue Horse wrote: I'm hopeless at positioning and understanding how mids are used, but reckon we have some serious depth now. Newman Jones Stocker Kemp Weitering Saad Williams Cripps LOB Cerra Charlie Honey Silvagni McKay Martin Pittonet Walsh Hewett I/c from: TDK, Ed, Kennedy, Owies, Fisher, Dow, Young, Plowman, McGov, Fogarty Others: Durdin, Newnes, Williamson, Setterfield, Parks, Philp, Mirkov, Carroll, Boyd Didn't consider Marchbank, Cunners or Docherty due to injury/illness. Midfield rotation involving Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, Williams, Ed, Kennedy. Happy for that to be torn apart. Exciting times! Cunners is back running. He's working hard as we speak. Brilliant news. He's a bonus. How do you know? The speed of Cuningham and Philp really gives us weapons I saw him running on the oval outside PP. He and a number of other players mainly those who had injuries. Call it the recovery group I guess.

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Author:	carntheblues [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:09 pm ]
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Author:	london blue [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:13 pm ]
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McGovern Jones Newman Saad JW Williams Dow Cripps Stocker Jack S Curnow Jack M Honey McKay TDK Pitto Cerra Walsh InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp

Author:	Teddy Hopkins [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:54 pm ]
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Cannot believe this. We have an overabundance of good players if all fit. Two ifs. One I have already mentioned. Second, game plan. GULP.

Author:	CFC8795 [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:14 pm ]
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That's two very small 'ifs' Go Blues !

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:29 pm ]
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Paddycripps wrote: bondiblue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: Navy Blue Horse wrote: I'm hopeless at positioning and understanding how mids are used, but reckon we have some serious depth now. Newman Jones Stocker Kemp Weitering Saad Williams Cripps LOB Cerra Charlie Honey Silvagni McKay Martin Pittonet Walsh Hewett I/c from: TDK, Ed, Kennedy, Owies, Fisher, Dow, Young, Plowman, McGov, Fogarty Others: Durdin, Newnes, Williamson, Setterfield, Parks, Philp, Mirkov, Carroll, Boyd Didn't consider Marchbank, Cunners or Docherty due to injury/illness. Midfield rotation involving Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, Williams, Ed, Kennedy. Happy for that to be torn apart. Exciting times! Cunners is back running. He's working hard as we speak. Brilliant news. He's a bonus. How do you know? The speed of Cuningham and Philp really gives us weapons I saw him running on the oval outside PP. He and a number of other players mainly those who had injuries. Call it the recovery group I guess. Gotta be happy about that.

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2022 Best 22
london blue wrote: McGovern Jones Newman Saad JW Williams Dow Cripps Stocker Jack S Curnow Jack M Honey McKay TDK Pitto Cerra Walsh InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp Interesting. My observations from the above: McGovern over Plowman over Marchbank over Young No Docherty, Cuningham and Marchbank because of injury??? TDK Pitto Gov ahead of 2021 Finals player Young. Gov came into the team in round 21 when Carlton had 14 out injured. Cripps isn't fast, neither is Ed, nor Kennedy and I don't think George is too much faster lends itself to a slow team, but I'm gussing your looking for players winning the hard contest, or different to last year, contesting. Honey for Fisher, so no small forward, and Durdin understandable still undeveloped. I wonder who your emergencies are? If Cuners Marchy and Doc unavailable, in your team, my emergencies would be Philp, Young, Fisher and Plowman

Author:	london blue [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:49 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote: london blue wrote: McGovern Jones Newman Saad JW Williams Dow Cripps Stocker Jack S Curnow Jack M Honey McKay TDK Pitto Cerra Walsh InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp Interesting. My observations from the above: McGovern over Plowman over Marchbank over Young No Docherty, Cuningham and Marchbank because of injury??? TDK Pitto Gov ahead of 2021 Finals player Young. Gov came into the team in round 21 when Carlton had 14 out injured. Cripps isn't fast, neither is Ed, nor Kennedy and I don't think George is too much faster lends itself to a slow team, but I'm gussing your looking for players winning the hard contest, or different to last year, contesting. Honey for Fisher, so no small forward, and Durdin understandable still undeveloped. I wonder who your emergencies are? If Cuners Marchy and Doc unavailable, in your team, my emergencies would be Philp, Young, Fisher and Plowman Young vs McGovern - yeah, could be. Emergencies - not interested No doc, March or Cunningham due to injury Last year our issue was contested ball and defensive effort - therefore think the team is quick enough - we’ll get quicker anyway by winning more of the ball I could argue fisher, lack of a right side frustrates me

Author:	Navy Blue Horse [ Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: 2022 Best 22
carntheblues wrote: I'm just not sure how people can list LOB in our best 22 at this stage, when he has shown clearly he is not in our best 22 and is very lucky to still be on our list. I based it on his ball use, and the fact he's a genuine winger, which I reckon we've been crying out for. Can he grab that spot? Time will tell.

Author:	bondiblue [ Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:36 pm ]
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london blue wrote: bondiblue wrote: london blue wrote: McGovern Jones Newman Saad JW Williams Dow Cripps Stocker Jack S Curnow Jack M Honey McKay TDK Pitto Cerra Walsh InT: Ed, George H, Kennedy kemp Interesting. My observations from the above: McGovern over Plowman over Marchbank over Young No Docherty, Cuningham and Marchbank because of injury??? TDK Pitto Gov ahead of 2021 Finals player Young. Gov came into the team in round 21 when Carlton had 14 out injured. Cripps isn't fast, neither is Ed, nor Kennedy and I don't think George is too much faster lends itself to a slow team, but I'm gussing your looking for players winning the hard contest, or different to last year, contesting. Honey for Fisher, so no small forward, and Durdin understandable still undeveloped. I wonder who your emergencies are? If Cuners Marchy and Doc unavailable, in your team, my emergencies would be Philp, Young, Fisher and Plowman Young vs McGovern - yeah, could be. Emergencies - not interested No doc, March or Cunningham due to injury Last year our issue was contested ball and defensive effort - therefore think the team is quick enough - we’ll get quicker anyway by winning more of the ball I could argue fisher, lack of a right side frustrates me Yep Emergencies request purely to see which players just missed out from your best 22. Get ball and we do look quicker from the contest, no doubt, but are we quicker?

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Author:	bmaurizio [ Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:39 am ]
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Hopefully Sam Philp can eventually roam a winge end 2022 and beyond , the youngster has a great burst of speed , good endurance , tenacity and will hunt the ball.

Author:	bondiblue [ Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:16 pm ]
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bmaurizio wrote: Hopefully Sam Philp can eventually roam a winge end 2022 and beyond , the youngster has a great burst of speed , good endurance , tenacity and will hunt the ball. Has he really got great endurance? If so, he goes to the wing. His speed is phenomenal.

Author:	carntheblues [ Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:51 pm ]
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Yes the wings are a weak area hence why I would play Walsh on one and Ed on the other. If Philp comes through then he can replace Ed. Extra speed would be a welcome addition.

Author:	Rod Spooky Galt [ Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:44 pm ]
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B: Docherty Weitering Jones HB: Williams Marchbank Saad C: Cerra Cripps Cunningham R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett HF: Martin Charlie Ellard F: Honey Harry JSOS I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, McInnes (Kemp)

Author:	Arnhem blues [ Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:16 pm ]
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote: B: Docherty Weitering Jones HB: Williams Marchbank Saad C: Cerra Cripps Cunningham R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett HF: Martin Charlie Ellard F: Honey Harry JSOS I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, McInnes (Kemp) I like the addition of ellard and Mcinnes… Any spot for Wiggins?

Author:	bondiblue [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:26 am ]
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote: B: Docherty Weitering Jones HB: Williams Marchbank Saad C: Cerra Cripps Cunningham R: Pittonet Walsh Hewett HF: Martin Charlie Ellard F: Honey Harry JSOS I/C: TDK, Dow, Stocker, McInnes (Kemp) Nearly got me there spooky ..Ellard, McInnes...who takes ellards spot in your team?