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John Elliott - RIP
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Author:  aboynamedsue [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:58 pm ]
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If he’d walked away in the mid-90s he would be a revered figure at Carlton. Instead, he hung on too long and he became a laughing stock and, to an extent, so did we in the process.

He put in a lot of time and energy for the club, and was terrific for us for about a decade. Unfortunately, he undid a lot of that good work in the last 7 years or so of his reign.

So I have mixed feelings about him, to be honest.

Condolences to his family. RIP John.
:beer:

Author:  Donstuie [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:10 pm ]
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aboynamedsue wrote:
If he’d walked away in the mid-90s he would be a revered figure at Carlton. Instead, he hung on too long and he became a laughing stock and, to an extent, so did we in the process.

He put in a lot of time and energy for the club, and was terrific for us for about a decade. Unfortunately, he undid a lot of that good work in the last 7 years or so of his reign.

So I have mixed feelings about him, to be honest.

Condolences to his family. RIP John.
:beer:


Summed it up better than I ever could :thumbsup:

Author:  TBWKTM [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:14 pm ]
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Donstuie wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
If he’d walked away in the mid-90s he would be a revered figure at Carlton. Instead, he hung on too long and he became a laughing stock and, to an extent, so did we in the process.

He put in a lot of time and energy for the club, and was terrific for us for about a decade. Unfortunately, he undid a lot of that good work in the last 7 years or so of his reign.

So I have mixed feelings about him, to be honest.

Condolences to his family. RIP John.
:beer:


Summed it up better than I ever could :thumbsup:


Thanks for completing what I was about to say....anyway, RIP J D Elliott.

Author:  Pat's Fitztrick [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:30 pm ]
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Donstuie wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
If he’d walked away in the mid-90s he would be a revered figure at Carlton. Instead, he hung on too long and he became a laughing stock and, to an extent, so did we in the process.

He put in a lot of time and energy for the club, and was terrific for us for about a decade. Unfortunately, he undid a lot of that good work in the last 7 years or so of his reign.

So I have mixed feelings about him, to be honest.

Condolences to his family. RIP John.
:beer:


Summed it up better than I ever could :thumbsup:


:thanks: X2

Author:  malbi [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:03 pm ]
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Jack was a passionate Carlton man. He always had a great sense of humour. RIP.

Author:  bondiblue [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:11 pm ]
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RIP to a true Blue.

I can't dislike the guy despite his shortfalls at the very end.

I know he would have fought tooth and nail to stop Demetriou and Evans having their way with Carlton, but he never got the chance.

He was the best President in the comp during the late 80's and revered as a President in the 90's by everyone.

Sad how it ended.

Not a good time for funerals in Melbourne with covid restrictions. Bummer.

Loved the story london blue :thumbsup: look forward to the uncensored version.

Author:  Rod Spooky Galt [ Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:11 pm ]
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Author:  kingkerna [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:33 am ]
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RIP to a true blue.

He had to go, but I hated Collins and co campaigning the way they did. They had no vision other than to kick JE out.
Then they sold us out to play at Docklands and let the AFL dictate everything to us.



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Author:  keogh [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:01 am ]
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Great then partially destroyed the club
An arrogant individual who was outdated long before they took his name off the grandstand

Author:  kingkerna [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:02 am ]
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keogh wrote:
Great then partially destroyed the club
An arrogant individual who was outdated long before they took his name off the grandstand

Arrogance is required in that role

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Author:  79Vintage [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:26 am ]
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I was at the urinal in the Carlton change rooms toilet circa 1986 after a home match when John Elliott came to stand next to me. I'll always remember him saying, "Ah, great win wasn't it!"

Condolences to John Elliott's family.

Author:  Heavs [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:18 am ]
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I guess this means the curse is done?

Author:  SurreyBlue [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:21 am ]
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Heavs wrote:
I guess this means the curse is done?


:eek: :oops:

Author:  robertbb [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:23 am ]
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Heavs wrote:
I guess this means the curse is done?


Ironically on the day we appointed a new coach and after a big broom had gone through the clubs board and administration.

We will see.......

Author:  Cazzesman [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:46 am ]
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Neil Mitchell on 3AW suggesting this morning the Elliot's name go back on the stand.

Why is it that after a person dies all their past sins, selfishness and gross misdeeds should be forgotten and forgiven. I don't get that. Why sweep stuff under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen. It happened. It's not Fake News.

I get the stories that Elliot loved the club. I'm sure they are all true. But if that is true why did he single handedly bring it to it's knees with the 'Brown Paper Bag Affair' and his lust for more and more power.

I don't want to speak ill of the dead but let's call a spade a #$%^ shovel. Elliot's selfish, megalomaniac actions as President of the Carlton Football club ultimately sewed the seed for close to a generation of failure.

He may well have been a great bloke, funny, gregarious, generous, a larrikin, a fine businessman and great father. But I only know him as the guy that cast a black cloud over the Club I support and bought it to the brink of handing back the keys to the AFL in 2002.

If Ian Collins had not come to the rescue I doubt Michael Voss would have had a club to Coach today.

For those that loved and admired Elliot, commiserations on your loss. Just please don't start to re-write history. I was there.

Regards Cazzesman

Author:  Heavs [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:48 am ]
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Cazzesman wrote:
Neil Mitchell on 3AW suggesting this morning the Elliot's name go back on the stand.

Why is it that after a person dies all their past sins, selfishness and gross misdeeds should be forgotten and forgiven. I don't get that. Why sweep stuff under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen. It happened. It's not Fake News.

I get the stories that Elliot loved the club. I'm sure they are all true. But if that is true why did he single handedly bring it to it's knees with the 'Brown Paper Bag Affair' and his lust for more and more power.

I don't want to speak ill of the dead but let's call a spade a #$%^ shovel. Elliot's selfish, megalomaniac actions as President of the Carlton Football club ultimately sewed the seed for close to a generation of failure.

He may well have been a great bloke, funny, gregarious, generous, a larrikin, a fine businessman and great father. But I only know him as the guy that cast a black cloud over the Club I support and bought it to the brink of handing back the keys to the AFL in 2002.

If Ian Collins had not come to the rescue I doubt Michael Voss would have had a club to Coach today.

For those that loved and admired Elliot, commiserations on your loss. Just please don't start to re-write history. I was there.

Regards Cazzesman


Look up about 8 posts.

Author:  london blue [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:50 am ]
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Perhaps John’s last moment of passion was to pass (the baton) on the same day the new Carlton was introduced to the world

Author:  Cazzesman [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:53 am ]
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:


So, so, so good RSG. Nail/Head.

Regards Cazzesman

Author:  sinbagger [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 am ]
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Cazzesman wrote:
Neil Mitchell on 3AW suggesting this morning the Elliot's name go back on the stand.

Why is it that after a person dies all their past sins, selfishness and gross misdeeds should be forgotten and forgiven. I don't get that. Why sweep stuff under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen. It happened. It's not Fake News.

I get the stories that Elliot loved the club. I'm sure they are all true. But if that is true why did he single handedly bring it to it's knees with the 'Brown Paper Bag Affair' and his lust for more and more power.

I don't want to speak ill of the dead but let's call a spade a #$%^ shovel. Elliot's selfish, megalomaniac actions as President of the Carlton Football club ultimately sewed the seed for close to a generation of failure.

He may well have been a great bloke, funny, gregarious, generous, a larrikin, a fine businessman and great father. But I only know him as the guy that cast a black cloud over the Club I support and bought it to the brink of handing back the keys to the AFL in 2002.

If Ian Collins had not come to the rescue I doubt Michael Voss would have had a club to Coach today.

For those that loved and admired Elliot, commiserations on your loss. Just please don't start to re-write history. I was there.

Regards Cazzesman


Forgive me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t every club handing out paper bags and we were just unlucky as being the club picked to be made an example of?

If it was the scum who were first singled out and Elliot cleaned up his act like the other clubs did after the fact then we all wouldn’t be questioning his legacy.

Author:  missnaut [ Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 am ]
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robertbb wrote:
Heavs wrote:
I guess this means the curse is done?


Ironically on the day we appointed a new coach and after a big broom had gone through the clubs board and administration.

We will see.......


I thought this too. I may just have new coach glasses on but it kinda feels like the door has finally closed on that period.

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