Sidefx wrote:
deano35 wrote:
Stkilda, Essenscum, Collingfilth and Sydney all have more injuries to key players than us and their system of play is better than what we are producing.
Injuries are not to blame for our poor performances.
Last week all we had missing in terms of durability and consistency in playing was Docherty and Owies
Don't give me Williams, McGovern, Martin, Marchbank or even Cunningham because between them they've probably been lucky to have played 20 games in the last 3 years
Nonsense.
How can you say injuries are not an issue by not wanting to acknowledge "injury prone" injured key players.
The issue you have highlighted here is we are carrying too many injury prone players which in itself is saying injuries are an issue.
And either way, no one is solely saying injuries are the reason for our poor performances, but it sure doesn't help when you can't field a team with your best players like Adelaide did last week.
Two of those teams have new coaches and you seem to forget the "new coach" effect, even though only last season it was us.
And of the teams you mentioned only the Aints had a similar number of required outs as us and they played ugly like us and still lost to a team that only likes to just win games.
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Injuries and game plan are separate things.
Nobody in their right mind would dispute we have a long injury list. Part of that is recruitment of injury prone players.
But putting injuries aside, I would argue Voss' game style isn't very unique and doesn't stand out to me as being revolutionary in the sense that many of the great teams have played a new style of footy that has caught the rest of the competition off guard.
Malthouse's Collingwood side that went on to win a premiership, while the press was previously in existence I'd argue Mick's team took it to the nth degree and they won a flag as a result. Ross Lyon should have won a flag with that style of play.
Richmond's game style was built off a chaotic brand where they just pushed the ball forwards at all costs, players tapping it on to advantage, even kicking off the ground, whatever the case they just ran forward in numbers and attacked and they had 2 great tall forwards (at least when Lynch came over they did).
This new Collingwood side is similar, they play attacking footy but it starts with defense, they bring high numbers to contests to ensure they win the contested ball, then they spread and run forward with a great attacking mind set.
Melbourne also played an incredibly attacking brand of footy. They moved the ball very quickly to their forwards. Their ability to win the contested ball through their exceptional on ball brigade and then their exceptional wings allowed them to play such a great brand of attacking footy.
Us on the other hand, we seem to be a quite slow moving football team. As I said earlier I get it Voss wants to stem the bleeding that defined the previous iteration of Carlton before he came across. Teague's Carlton didn't know how to defend.
I would argue our team are a little akin to the 2022 Geelong side. That Geelong side were not fleet of foot but applied pressure on the ball carrier all over the ground, forcing turnovers which then allowed the team to rebound and of course they had 2 great tall forwards. We seem to be closer to that model. Not an out and out quick team. But will we be able to master it and bring home 17?
Ultimately I think Voss is conservative as a coach and not a tactical innovator.