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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:30 pm 
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Reid kicked 2 in a minute to give the Swans daylight, wouldn't say the forwards did nothing. I'm not convinced we need a major change in approach. This finals series is the first time in a decade I haven't watched games and felt depressed about how far apart this is from our level. I would have given ourselves a big chance in both games so far. Better composure (experience), more leg speed, better injury management and we're almost there. This is also the reason I've been anti- every trade and FA signing proposed in the recruitment thread, I want us to go to the draft to address our needs, and keep our strengths.


Yeah , i like that GEx . I agree , We are not that far away . We just have to play the whole game without lapses . No switching off . Also agree we don't need to go crazy with trades , just a couple of astute pickups .

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:42 pm 
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Josh Rachele is the one I want.

Happy to see Corey Durdin (and Sam for that matter) head back to SA in a trade for him. Plus a pick and a player. Just get Rachele.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:16 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Reid kicked 2 in a minute to give the Swans daylight, wouldn't say the forwards did nothing. I'm not convinced we need a major change in approach. This finals series is the first time in a decade I haven't watched games and felt depressed about how far apart this is from our level. I would have given ourselves a big chance in both games so far. Better composure (experience), more leg speed, better injury management and we're almost there. This is also the reason I've been anti- every trade and FA signing proposed in the recruitment thread, I want us to go to the draft to address our needs, and keep our strengths.


Bingo.
I posted this on an other site but I feel it also sits here in this discussion.

We are definitely on the right track, both on and off field now. We haven’t been in such a spot since then 90’s.
M Voss is the right person. P Cripps is the right leader. This group are the right group. We have talent and depth.
We just need to believe in ourselves, fix our injury issues and get consistent with our game.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:23 pm 
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change game plan we need forwards that lead to ball carrier NO MORE LONG BOMBS IN 2023


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:39 pm 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
change game plan we need forwards that lead to ball carrier NO MORE LONG BOMBS IN 2023


Long Bombs are good if you have the right blokes at there feet and i mean at there feet .

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:15 am 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
change game plan we need forwards that lead to ball carrier NO MORE LONG BOMBS IN 2023


I'm 99% certain that Vossy doesn't draw long bombs into the forward 50 on the whiteboard at training.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:53 am 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
change game plan we need forwards that lead to ball carrier NO MORE LONG BOMBS IN 2023


I don't think that's the plan. This year was all about getting the basics in play. Contested ball, tackling, defensive patterns and I reckon we improved a lot. We were coming from a long way back.

I expect this pre season a lot more refinement and improved connection between mids & forwards. A mainly injury free run would help dramatically as well


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:57 am 
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One thng clear from these finals is that pressure is paramount. I am not even sure how important game style is in that regard.
Defensive structure also. You could see on the telecast, Pendlebury and Sidebottom running back when they were in front to fill holes and otnumber Geelong in the D50. Our leaders failed at that task.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:22 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
One thng clear from these finals is that pressure is paramount. I am not even sure how important game style is in that regard.
Defensive structure also. You could see on the telecast, Pendlebury and Sidebottom running back when they were in front to fill holes and otnumber Geelong in the D50. Our leaders failed at that task.


Now there's a couple of blokes with Super footy IQ"s .

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:39 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
jpulice1969 wrote:
change game plan we need forwards that lead to ball carrier NO MORE LONG BOMBS IN 2023


Long Bombs are good if you have the right blokes at there feet and i mean at there feet .

I reckon you’re onto it Mick. We’ve got the right blokes, they’re just drawn too far from home with our slow movement between the arcs.

Solving the half forward zone is the #1 goal for the off-season.

Writing on the wall for the likes of Fisher, Fogarty, Martin, Honey, Philp & Cuningham. If what’s rumoured rings true and Ed has got another year in him, then I couldn’t imagine a better magic pill to drop into this group.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:33 pm 
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i would like us to do what Collingwood does. The forwards lead to the central corridor and we kick it to a dangerous position of the ground. We either mark it or create scatter ball in a dangerous position.

We always lead to the pockets. Makes goal kicking more difficult and doesnt make us dangerous enough to crumb the ball next to the goals.

Also if we bunch up in the corridor the opposition cant run it out as easy due to the numbers around the ball.

And i would like us to run and handball and short kick close to the forward 50 and then release.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:57 pm 
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we are a dumb footy side , like always kicking to wings ,kick it harry or charlie , need team defence i just hope everyone learns from this year especially the coaches


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:23 pm 
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I hope that if we start next year well that the coach keeps reminding the players about how this year ended and to just keep banking the wins. I know you can't always be at maximum intensity, but hard not to believe that the players got a little ahead of themselves when things were going well. Just imagine if we'd played like we did against Melbourne and Collingwood against other teams like Adelaide and St Kilda and Gold Coast.


i think that’s a fair call. but there’s nothing we could have done about it too perhaps. they had to learn that lesson the hard way. nothing will be taken for granted next season. many footy world commentators were super excited by Baggers this season and consequently pumped us up and now have décalée the season a fail
because of not making/winning finals. that’s okay. it’s a good lesson to learn before ewe have key position players in their last season (apologies to Newnes)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:25 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
I hope that if we start next year well that the coach keeps reminding the players about how this year ended and to just keep banking the wins. I know you can't always be at maximum intensity, but hard not to believe that the players got a little ahead of themselves when things were going well. Just imagine if we'd played like we did against Melbourne and Collingwood against other teams like Adelaide and St Kilda and Gold Coast.


A little ahead of ourselves ? we got a mile ahead of ourselves . Exhibit A the Saints game .


also we’re still developing the mental side of the game. turning east beat clubs around in any sport is not easy at the elite level. we’ve done heaps right, and the pain of those near misses will be worth gold next season.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:28 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
I hope that if we start next year well that the coach keeps reminding the players about how this year ended and to just keep banking the wins. I know you can't always be at maximum intensity, but hard not to believe that the players got a little ahead of themselves when things were going well. Just imagine if we'd played like we did against Melbourne and Collingwood against other teams like Adelaide and St Kilda and Gold Coast.


A little ahead of ourselves ? we got a mile ahead of ourselves . Exhibit A the Saints game .



If that day I recall we were so far ahead of ourselves we were in either Las Vegas or Phuket!!!

:lol:


Yeah , that was the " Something aint right in Denmark " day .


i got piégeons droppings from some for saying we we still vulnerable when we were top four. all i meant by that was it’s a tough run home, an unprecedentedly even season amongst the, say, top 12 level in terms of predicting home and away game results.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:29 am 
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Carlton Coach Michael Voss is a (former) Brownlow Medallist. How many (if any) Brownlow winning coaches have gone on to coach one of his players to a Brownlow?

I can't think of any.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:37 am 
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Carlton Coach Michael Voss is a (former) Brownlow Medallist. How many (if any) Brownlow winning coaches have gone on to coach one of his players to a Brownlow?

I can't think of any.


Very observant Muzz . Fascinating question .

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Ian Stewart coached Graham Teasdale when he won in 1977.

Bill Hutchinson won two under Dick Reynolds in 52/53.

Denis Ryan in 36 under Hayden Bunton.

Ivor Warne-Smith coached himself to one in 1928.

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we have dodged a bullet when Clarko said no

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:58 am 
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How many Brownlow winners have become Premiership coaches?
M. Blight comes to mind.

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