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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:02 pm 
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Cazz those were the days and agree everyone in the USC had a different opinion and they weren’t ashamed to voice it


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Cazzesman wrote:
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Maybe the agenda is to simply give members a chance to cast their judgement on the last decade of those at the helm.




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So 50 old men yelling at clouds. :yikes: :yikes:

Rocco don’t give us problems, give us solutions.

Sounds like the 15 guys who sat in the outer at Princess Park acting as the Unoffical Selection Committee. I loved their spirit and they certainly helped oust Elliot, but each one had a different opinion. I know because I had to listen to everyone one of them over and over.

It was like herding cats. But passionate they were I will give them that :lol: :lol:

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Not offering problems or solutions, just commenting on what is going to happen.

I suspect the outcome of all this will be a board made up of something old, something new, something borrowed and all blue.


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 Post subject: Re: EGM
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Is the guy who sold peanuts at Princes Park still around?
Could be a neutral unity candidate.

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Is the guy who sold peanuts at Princes Park still around?
Could be a neutral unity candidate.



Omg the peanut guy. That’s a blast from the past. Great memories at Princess Park back then.

Oh how far we have fallen !! Just sad.


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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:26 pm 
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Boys , not having a crack at anyone . But having been around the joint for well over a half century i want to know . I " m not a Sayers fan , but i gotta say since he has taken the reigns he comes across as a hard man . A bloke with a bit of drop punt in him . I like a tough cookie at the top . But it aint everything . Where has it been for the last ten years . At the moment i am happy to give him a go . But i still want to know about this other mob . Reckon they are more than entitled to put there case as we have been woeful for twenty years plus . Good on Vince for having a go . We need a big shake up . If Sayers is any sort of bloke he should welcome the challenge . What i find EXTREMELY concerning is these new board members having been drinking from the same swill as the others . In other words YES MEN . We need a bit of new talent from outside rather than a bunch of cronies swapping deck chairs . As a good start Sayers needs blokes in there from out of his circle . Not just his clique ..............nice for Sayers to get Vince in and get him to chuck a couple of names in . Compromise deal , avoid the AGM , and for faaark sake get rolling together coz i am sick to death of this pathetic shit that has been dished up for the last twenty years plus . ENOUGH .


Thats right Mick - after years of being a bottom club members have become acutely more political. Many if not majority would be astound new board members got a seat on our board without an election. It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are yes men/yes women. In an instant the board has become the emperor and his minions.


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Some of the astro-turfing on here and BF is phenomenal.

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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:55 pm 
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Boys , not having a crack at anyone . But having been around the joint for well over a half century i want to know . I " m not a Sayers fan , but i gotta say since he has taken the reigns he comes across as a hard man . A bloke with a bit of drop punt in him . I like a tough cookie at the top . But it aint everything . Where has it been for the last ten years . At the moment i am happy to give him a go . But i still want to know about this other mob . Reckon they are more than entitled to put there case as we have been woeful for twenty years plus . Good on Vince for having a go . We need a big shake up . If Sayers is any sort of bloke he should welcome the challenge . What i find EXTREMELY concerning is these new board members having been drinking from the same swill as the others . In other words YES MEN . We need a bit of new talent from outside rather than a bunch of cronies swapping deck chairs . As a good start Sayers needs blokes in there from out of his circle . Not just his clique ..............nice for Sayers to get Vince in and get him to chuck a couple of names in . Compromise deal , avoid the AGM , and for faaark sake get rolling together coz i am sick to death of this pathetic shit that has been dished up for the last twenty years plus . ENOUGH .


Thats right Mick - after years of being a bottom club members have become acutely more political. Many if not majority would be astound new board members got a seat on our board without an election. It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are yes men/yes women. In an instant the board has become the emperor and his minions.


Mate, the more the corporates run the game the more this will happen.

When was the last open election at a club?


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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:03 pm 
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Rocco Iguana wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Rocco Iguana wrote:
Maybe the agenda is to simply give members a chance to cast their judgement on the last decade of those at the helm.




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So 50 old men yelling at clouds. :yikes: :yikes:

Rocco don’t give us problems, give us solutions.

Sounds like the 15 guys who sat in the outer at Princess Park acting as the Unoffical Selection Committee. I loved their spirit and they certainly helped oust Elliot, but each one had a different opinion. I know because I had to listen to everyone one of them over and over.

It was like herding cats. But passionate they were I will give them that :lol: :lol:

Regards Cazzesman


Not offering problems or solutions, just commenting on what is going to happen.

I suspect the outcome of all this will be a board made up of something old, something new and all blue.


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Sorry Rocco I wasn't actually referring to you. It was the Royal 'We'. I meant 'Vince don't give us problems, give us solutions'.

Lets hope Vince is prepared to offer an actual Fix to his perceived problems. Lets hope those he wants on the board value add to the Skill Sets required etc, etc.

If supporters such as Vince ever want to be taken seriously, they need to have a well defined Road Map of that comprehensively details the Why, When, How and Who that is going to improve things on the Board.

Keogh says it best occasionally (And I paraphrase Keogh).............Talk is Cheap! :smoking:

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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:04 pm 
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Haha, the USC. I used to go to training a bit in the early 90s & just enjoy eavesdropping on the chitchat.

I think there was an article on them in the footy record in about 93

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 Post subject: Re: EGM
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Haha, the USC. I used to go to training a bit in the early 90s & just enjoy eavesdropping on the chitchat.

I think there was an article on them in the footy record in about 93


:lol: :lol: :lol: damn they use to smash me about recruiting. Rightly or Wrongly :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

I always use to get stories from them, where they claimed to have been privy to a conversation. What they didn't know was that many times I was actually involved in that conversation and they certainly weren't there. :clap: :clap: :clap:

They use to try and one up each other with 'Inside Info'. I remember a previous CEO use to slip them some useless tidbits that weren't true, just to see how far the story would go. Like Chinese whispers, by the time it got back to him a week later it was bigger than Ben Hur.

They always wanted to sack the Board and put their own mates on. :thumbsup: Mind you, Collo and his Ticket who caused the overthrow of Elliot, certainly did put them to good use in the propaganda wars of 2002.

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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:36 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
jezzarules wrote:
Is the guy who sold peanuts at Princes Park still around?
Could be a neutral unity candidate.



Omg the peanut guy. That’s a blast from the past. Great memories at Princess Park back then.

Oh how far we have fallen !! Just sad.

I remember the peanut man too.
He used to throw the bags of peanuts up into the crowd.
He would yell out peanuts, peanuts 20c a bag.
I am pretty sure he passed away about 30 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:41 pm 
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Ah , the USC , what a brilliant Carlton institution they are . Been around longer than me and thats saying something . Remember the old days at training on a thursday night . Shit there must have been 200 of them . Wes , flanked by Armour and Kev Hall fielded all comers . The boys are still around in fewer numbers but ALL are more than happy to give there start on all things Carlton . Good on " em .Loyalty is something you can't buy . Fantastic group of blokes for mine coz they are there hail rain or shine .

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:58 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Boys , not having a crack at anyone . But having been around the joint for well over a half century i want to know . I " m not a Sayers fan , but i gotta say since he has taken the reigns he comes across as a hard man . A bloke with a bit of drop punt in him . I like a tough cookie at the top . But it aint everything . Where has it been for the last ten years . At the moment i am happy to give him a go . But i still want to know about this other mob . Reckon they are more than entitled to put there case as we have been woeful for twenty years plus . Good on Vince for having a go . We need a big shake up . If Sayers is any sort of bloke he should welcome the challenge . What i find EXTREMELY concerning is these new board members having been drinking from the same swill as the others . In other words YES MEN . We need a bit of new talent from outside rather than a bunch of cronies swapping deck chairs . As a good start Sayers needs blokes in there from out of his circle . Not just his clique ..............nice for Sayers to get Vince in and get him to chuck a couple of names in . Compromise deal , avoid the AGM , and for faaark sake get rolling together coz i am sick to death of this pathetic shit that has been dished up for the last twenty years plus . ENOUGH .


Thats right Mick - after years of being a bottom club members have become acutely more political. Many if not majority would be astound new board members got a seat on our board without an election. It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are yes men/yes women. In an instant the board has become the emperor and his minions.


Mate, the more the corporates run the game the more this will happen.

When was the last open election at a club?


I prefer more football people that know football and football clubs.. these blokes are clueless without excel spreadsheets. They have zero intuition. It is no surprise we won finals games with a mediocre list under Sticks. See where I am coming from


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 Post subject: Re: EGM
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:54 pm 
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So let me get this right.
We have an auctioneer/estate agent/master of ceremonies (Vince), the least most trusted person in a dishonest industry that is only surpassed by used car sales, looking to spill the new look board.
What skills could a snake like this have that meet a modern board composition to effectively manage a highly scrutinised organisation in the most scrutinised industry in Australia?
And what are their objectives.....to bring Teague back, a bloke who has proven not only he can't coach, can't adapt, but can't handle what comes with failure in the hottest seat in Australia?
How the hell do they think this will play out with all the media scum ready to pounce on this? Talk about a marketing and branding fiasco, if I was a major sponsor, I'd be looking to pull out.
IMO This will be the lowest our once great club has ever sunk to, especially on the verge of us finally getting some positive changes, with a list that is not far from delivering us the move up the ladder we have all been craving and a professional process driven president that takes no $h!t from the media.

Plus if the rumours are true that Clarkson didn't want to be a part of this, it just shows how messed up this EGM is.

And if this doesn't eventuate or if it fails, I hope the board changes the 100 vote threshold.
We have 81k members and there is bound to be at least 1% that are straight up lunatics (some are in here flying their colours).

Personally, all the votes I have with my family and friends, we will be voting against this circus of a coup and Trump like instigator.


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Cazzesman wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Haha, the USC. I used to go to training a bit in the early 90s & just enjoy eavesdropping on the chitchat.

I think there was an article on them in the footy record in about 93


:lol: :lol: :lol: damn they use to smash me about recruiting. Rightly or Wrongly :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

I always use to get stories from them, where they claimed to have been privy to a conversation. What they didn't know was that many times I was actually involved in that conversation and they certainly weren't there. :clap: :clap: :clap:

They use to try and one up each other with 'Inside Info'. I remember a previous CEO use to slip them some useless tidbits that weren't true, just to see how far the story would go. Like Chinese whispers, by the time it got back to him a week later it was bigger than Ben Hur.

They always wanted to sack the Board and put their own mates on. :thumbsup: Mind you, Collo and his Ticket who caused the overthrow of Elliot, certainly did put them to good use in the propaganda wars of 2002.

Regards Cazzesman


Collo.....yeah well enough said.


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So let me get this right.
We have an auctioneer/estate agent/master of ceremonies (Vince), the least most trusted person in a dishonest industry that is only surpassed by used car sales, looking to spill the new look board.
What skills could a snake like this have that meet a modern board composition to effectively manage a highly scrutinised organisation in the most scrutinised industry in Australia?
And what are their objectives.....to bring Teague back, a bloke who has proven not only he can't coach, can't adapt, but can't handle what comes with failure in the hottest seat in Australia?
How the hell do they think this will play out with all the media scum ready to pounce on this? Talk about a marketing and branding fiasco, if I was a major sponsor, I'd be looking to pull out.
IMO This will be the lowest our once great club has ever sunk to, especially on the verge of us finally getting some positive changes, with a list that is not far from delivering us the move up the ladder we have all been craving and a professional process driven president that takes no $h!t from the media.

Plus if the rumours are true that Clarkson didn't want to be a part of this, it just shows how messed up this EGM is.

And if this doesn't eventuate or if it fails, I hope the board changes the 100 vote threshold.
We have 81k members and there is bound to be at least 1% that are straight up lunatics (some are in here flying their colours).

Personally, all the votes I have with my family and friends, we will be voting against this circus of a coup and Trump like instigator.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:20 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Boys , not having a crack at anyone . But having been around the joint for well over a half century i want to know . I " m not a Sayers fan , but i gotta say since he has taken the reigns he comes across as a hard man . A bloke with a bit of drop punt in him . I like a tough cookie at the top . But it aint everything . Where has it been for the last ten years . At the moment i am happy to give him a go . But i still want to know about this other mob . Reckon they are more than entitled to put there case as we have been woeful for twenty years plus . Good on Vince for having a go . We need a big shake up . If Sayers is any sort of bloke he should welcome the challenge . What i find EXTREMELY concerning is these new board members having been drinking from the same swill as the others . In other words YES MEN . We need a bit of new talent from outside rather than a bunch of cronies swapping deck chairs . As a good start Sayers needs blokes in there from out of his circle . Not just his clique ..............nice for Sayers to get Vince in and get him to chuck a couple of names in . Compromise deal , avoid the AGM , and for faaark sake get rolling together coz i am sick to death of this pathetic shit that has been dished up for the last twenty years plus . ENOUGH .


Thats right Mick - after years of being a bottom club members have become acutely more political. Many if not majority would be astound new board members got a seat on our board without an election. It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are yes men/yes women. In an instant the board has become the emperor and his minions.


Mate, the more the corporates run the game the more this will happen.

When was the last open election at a club?


I prefer more football people that know football and football clubs.. these blokes are clueless without excel spreadsheets. They have zero intuition. It is no surprise we won finals games with a mediocre list under Sticks. See where I am coming from


When I say corporates I’m referring to the game as a whole. There’ll be no more democratic elections, I don’t know any corporate board where the next member isn’t invited.

It’s not the same game, not just on field but off it too. If we can get the football appointments right we’ll be a chance but there’s very little difference between the groups that’ll ‘run’ the club.


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It’s going to be hard to entice quality coaches and players from other clubs with this rubbish going on.

The agitators would be well served to keep their powder dry for 12 months. If Sayers botches the next 12 months, then the opposition ticket is much more likely to generate support in 2022/23.

Now is not the time to challenge. It’s not going to get up, and all it’s going to do is scare off quality people and cause a distraction we can’t afford.

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Obviously some passionate , muddled supporters just don’t get it.

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It’s going to be hard to entice quality coaches and players from other clubs with this rubbish going on.

The agitators would be well served to keep their powder dry for 12 months. If Sayers botches the next 12 months, then the opposition ticket is much more likely to generate support in 2022/23.

Now is not the time to challenge. It’s not going to get up, and all it’s going to do is scare off quality people and cause a distraction we can’t afford.


Ever thought that anyone who associates with us these days either leaves a hero or sticks around long enough to have their reputation tarnished?

These guys have initiated this too late if anything.


Michael voss has been quoted as being unhappy regarding the lack of process surrounding the Teague appointment and thought he was a pawn in that negotiation.

So he's out too.

We just continue to disappoint. Why would anyone want to be involved with us? This is worse that the 2000's. Back then at least we could blame Elliott for leaving us in a sticky situation and the afl for smashing us. This is just 20 years of inept leadership. We voluntarily left pp people can blame the EGM guys for why we aren't attracting quality candidates but our club isn't acting like a place to be.

You know I look at Brisbane and Greg Swann running the show and I wonder how these guys went from a similar situation as us to a top 4 finish with our old ceo whilst we were rehabilitating Stephen Triggs reputation.


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