Apart from rucking couldn’t we have put him in the midfield to get clearances in any case or to change it up

I’m regrettably comparing our coach to theirs and I’ve got to say our boy in terms of game plan and being able to get our team up more than 1 in every 3 games pales into comparison and you don’t know how much that hurts me to say

Its hurting all of us Frank, especially those who have watched our club rise from 68 and sit at the top of the tree for 3 decades, as a revered sporting icon, envied by all, only to watch this mess unfold and endure it for 20 years.

At least we can see that when you hit the bottom of the barrel, just as the druggies did after the end of the season from hell, there's a chance to turn the tables, with a good coach: someone who knows what they are doing.

I have hope ... if we get the right coach. An uncompromising one.

Agreed and I would argue that Sayers is finally the right choice as President
In my view we haven’t had a good President since Collo and we desperately need one now

The next bit of the puzzle is a bloody good coach who is as you say uncompromising

This is the first time all season it's really hurt, for me. I've avoided the media for most of the day because I just can't cop it right now, listened to JJJ instead. At least you just know they'll never talk footy

Realised today that prior to this I was just numb to it. The Port loss we looked flat but also thought we played against a super well drilled side. The Dogs game was just one giant WTF just happened type moment. North, well we were pretty undermanned that day.

But yesterday we named a good squad & were playing a side that's been living in hotels for god knows how long, just lost by 15 goals last week, & had no finals to play for.

We are rubbish.

Surrey when you have Walsh supporting you you know you are on the wrong side of the argument

We would not have a football club without collo -Did he do everything right no
Did he save the Carlton football club after Elliott killed it yes he did and I for one are very grateful if he wasn’t president then we would have gone under
Others at the time we’re going to throw in the keys to the AFL Collo was the main person with the force of personality stood firm and we survived

And before you say that is myth I know this first hand

Rubbish and Flakey!!!

Rubbish and Flakey!!!

The season hasn't finished yet.

But with Port and GWS left to play, I don't think we will win anymore games. Both of those teams really want to play finals and don't fear them.

I really haven't enjoyed this year. I feel we have gone backwards TBH

2020 we lost games we led by a lot during the first half, or fought back in the last

2019 we lost 4 games by less than a goal and 3 games less than 2 goals, and we showed a lot of promise.

IMO we started to look like a destination club by the end of 2019, and by the end of last year, we felt we needed to add some speed and did.

This year was promising, but we still haven't won more than 2 in a row, and our efforts in too many games has been questionable.

I have more questions about our coach and our list, and therefore our shor term future than previous 2 years.

Nah, this year had all the promise in the world, only for those promises to be broken.

Yesterday we had our best team in for the year, with only 5 of our best 22 out injured, like other teams: Marchbank, Docherty, Williams Cuningham and Pittonet.

We lost to a team that got smashed by more than 100 points last week, with younger kids than us on every line.

How does the club know what our weaknesses are? We haven't improved on last year...oh you mean the Review? I get it. Yes, thank goodness for that, we need to know more and do something about our predicament. We are in an awful state. A laughing stock. Insignificant. An easy target.

Really interested in how many freeby members are going to sign back up. Reckon ol Cain might be looking to jump ship because I can see this year's 'record' membership going down with a bullet