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R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
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Author:  Blue Vain [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
IMHO, Williams and Martin in for O'Brien and Silvagni.
Gibbo a chance for the sub vest
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
Blue Vain wrote:
IMHO, Williams and Martin in for O'Brien and Silvagni.
Gibbo a chance for the sub vest


I was just about to post the team I expect the MC to announce, and you hit it right on the head.

I was going to suggest naming Murphy as 23rd man to help him get to his 300 games sooner than the business end of the season, and secondly, and probably most important, assuming injury/ concussion occurs later in the game, like last week, he comes on fresh whilst the other players are fatigued. That way he may get closer to the pace of the game, and no excuse to display that high effort, no impact attempt to bust a gut defending. In my heart, I believe he was acting that he was busting a gut when chasing.
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:57 pm ]
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Walsh wrote:
DOW is another that is not a Premiership type player as he also doesnt find enough of the football as a prime ball mover. But his tenacity and toughness around the football has improved.


He was recruited for his ability to win the nut, and run and carry and break lines.
He doesn't seem confident to do so, even when the opportunity presented itself to do so several times last week. Disappointing to see TBH.
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:59 pm ]
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AGRO wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Lachlan Sholl is the development path LOB should have taken. A few games to get a taste and given games as an opportunity to keep his spot.

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He should have at least been part of our Peter Dean Father/Son Academy- even though his dad didn’t get play enough games for him to be a father/son selection.


I don’t think Lachlan was ever on our radar.

He went at pick 64, I am sure we could have traded back into the draft at that stage.


Collingwood only offered us pick 74 for OBrien :wink:
Author:  Asp [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:01 pm ]
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jezzarules wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Dow's has been good this year so far

There were plenty worse than him thursday

Agreed and give the kid a few games to find his rhythm. LOB too.


Good by whose standards ? How many possessions, tackles, effective kicks , goals ? He is not a kid any more. Just a spud who cannot play football. Was he named in the best players ? NO. To find his rhythm he needs to join a boy band and get off a football ground. Sick of people on this site making excuses for a soft, lazy, poorly skilled loser who can't kick, can't mark, can't stick a tackle and is taking the space of of half a dozen kids who are better than him and need the chance to prove it. All because he was pick 4. So was the great Luke Livingstone I believe.
Author:  AGRO [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:06 pm ]
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bondiblue wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Lachlan Sholl is the development path LOB should have taken. A few games to get a taste and given games as an opportunity to keep his spot.

.




He should have at least been part of our Peter Dean Father/Son Academy- even though his dad didn’t get play enough games for him to be a father/son selection.


I don’t think Lachlan was ever on our radar.

He went at pick 64, I am sure we could have traded back into the draft at that stage.


Collingwood only offered us pick 74 for OBrien :wink:



Not in the 2018 draft.
Author:  kezza [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:07 pm ]
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Apparently those attending this game need to download the Service Victoria App.
Author:  jake_h03 [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
The obvious changes only

IN: Williams, Martin
OUT: JSOS, LOB
Author:  Effes [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:23 pm ]
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Author:  Walsh [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
I'll be there yippeee......Go Baggers
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
I will have a keen eye on the defensive side of our players this week: running back to fill gaps or to help defense, forward pressure, tackling, chasing.

These are the non negotiables.

No Passengers.
Author:  bondiblue [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
On the Offensive side of the game:

I expect Harry to take his shots at goal with confidence in his drop punt: make it a habit and his MO.

If Dow misses another shot on goal from 30-40 out in front ... I will be asking he does his development in the VFL.

Pies will flood whether we get it in quick or not and Moore will be waiting for the Carlton bomb. I want to see our mids lower their eyes and hit targets rather than bombing it to Moore.

Levi must catch the ball and beat Moore, and hit their defenders hard with knees, shoulders and with his weight on them in tackles.

I expect a goal or two from Murphy. A win for him for mine tomorrow is to see him chase opposition effectively, with purpose and tackle: ie forward pressure

Lock the ball in our forwardline. Not talk about it. Do it!
Author:  Lowey_47 [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
Common sense changes only. Nice to see.

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Author:  Blue Vain [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
A bit disappointed to see McDonald out of the 22. I thought he deserved to keep his spot
Author:  Mickstar [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
Blue Vain wrote:
A bit disappointed to see McDonald out of the 22. I thought he deserved to keep his spot


Me too................crazy for mine.Straightened us up.Exactly the sort of player we need in the forward half.Took the heat off Harry and Levi................this non selection has got me worried already.
Author:  BigGartos [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:26 pm ]
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Technically, Oscar was never in the 22..
Author:  bluedog [ Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
I think we've only beaten them twice out of the last 13 encounters.




Not sure if it's been mentioned here, but...




HEAD TO HEAD:



CARLTON 127


COLLINGWOOD 127



4 draws.
Author:  SurreyBlue [ Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:58 am ]
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Last 20 years would do this ^
Author:  bondiblue [ Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R2 Carlton v Collingwood (pre-match discussion)
Mickstar wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
A bit disappointed to see McDonald out of the 22. I thought he deserved to keep his spot


Me too................crazy for mine.Straightened us up.Exactly the sort of player we need in the forward half.Took the heat off Harry and Levi................this non selection has got me worried already.


Who knows what will happen an hour prior to the game.

Up till then, anyone on the Emergency list can be selected in the First 22, then after that, the 23rd man is named.

It makes sense to have another tall marking target in the forward line to stretch their backline. Oscar is quite mobile too.

This is the biggest clash in footy in Australia.

Hope its a good tough game for 3/4ers and we run away with a 50 point win in the last Qtr.

GO BLUES !!!!!
Author:  bondiblue [ Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:30 am ]
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Oh Yeah...

Happy Bicentenary to all Greeks today: 200 years of Independence since their victory over the Turks.

What a great day for Carlton to show its support for its huge number of supporters of Greek heritage, with a victory over the old foes.

Lets get that 128th victory over the Filth tonight, and celebrate !!
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