I'm hoping the future is Mirkov 210cm and TDK 203 cm ruck-forward tandem.

But these 22yo's are going to take time...maybe 2-4 years.

maybe Chol is the guy we should be after to bridge the gap.
He turns 25yo in January, and is ahead of the 2 we have.

I think he may be better than 24yo Pitto in the ruck.
We have to address the ruck forward position now if our finals window opens 2022-3.

Not sure why they are going for long term contracts with players like George Hewett from the Sydney Swans.

4 years?

Why??

3 years is better...or 2 years even better.

Hewett wasn't in the top 10 in their best and fairest and was a bit inconsistent.

Seems a bit weird to be so desperate for him on a 4 year deal.



4 years means you could lock in on a dud like McGovern = 5 years of dud.

This in turn means when you want to get a good player you have less options.

True enough but the way I see it, sometimes when moving interstate, players need some certainty ahead of wages. So, 4 years on X amount of dollars, might be the equivalent of 3 years on Y amount of Dollars or 2 years on Z amount of dollars.

The player is likely to accept less wages for a longer period because it takes a lot of uncertainty out of the equation and might see him happier to choose us initially. Until the deal is done though it could all be public talking up his price to get a better deal out of Sydney, so take any conversation with a grain of salt here.

^^ I actually think we need more consistent footballers, and Hewitt is a classic moneyball pickup. Hes averaged 20 games a year over 6 years. Something our blokes struggle with is getting on and staying the park, and he plugs a midfield hole where we have a bunch of promising but inconsistent, and lack of 4 quarter effort players.


He comes at the right age, and shouldnt cost a lot, but again, the devil in these deals is in the details.

Yeah, ok, that is a good counter-argument.

On those points I can see that he is worth the punt, but I still baulk at 4 year deals unless you know the player has bona fide moral capabilities. A lot of those GWS ones we picked the awful ones..
Also, the McGovern one leaves me feeling a bit dubious about doing it again.

Fair point, but I think even Mcgovern has better in him.

I think McGovern is not taking footy seriously, and having his mate Teague did not help. He needs a tougher coach to tell him how it is. Once that happens, think we will see a different McGovern.



From his time at Adelaide I remember a high marking, straight kicking match winner.

We havent seen that, but likewise, we havent seen him on the park as much as we would like, AND our forward line has been nothing but inconsistent since he arrived.

My bigger problem with McGovern was that he didnt fill an obvious need in the team when we got him, and seemed a bit of a reach (this does look a bit like that, so understand where you are coming from here). The important point is that his teamates rate him highly as do the coaches which means hes a good team player and we definately need more of that.

I checked 2020 and 2021 B&F - he didn't make top 10 in either.
https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/826 ... -medallist

Not sure why they are going for long term contracts with players like George Hewett from the Sydney Swans.

4 years?

Why??

3 years is better...or 2 years even better.

Hewett wasn't in the top 10 in their best and fairest and was a bit inconsistent.

Seems a bit weird to be so desperate for him on a 4 year deal.



4 years means you could lock in on a dud like McGovern = 5 years of dud.

This in turn means when you want to get a good player you have less options.

He was runner-up in 2019.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/132016/swans-cocaptain-rampe-wins-first-bob-skilton-medal-in-a-landslide

7th in 2018 and 5th in 2017.

I think he'll be everything we hoped Setterfield would be this year.

I also think we'll probably persist with playing him and Curnow in the same midfield rotation, let alone the same 22 for longer than we should.

I think he'll be everything we hoped Setterfield would be this year.

I also think we'll probably persist with playing him and Curnow in the same midfield rotation, let alone the same 22 for longer than we should.