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Author: | Paddycripps [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Leftfield ideas |
Thought it would be good to have a thread where posters can post ideas on how Carlton can be improved, be it on field or off field, that might be a bit leftfield. And hoping other posters if they disagree do so in a respectful manner. Here's one to get the sherrin moving... Play Doc onball in 2021 and beyond. It looks like opposition coaches took him out of his comfort zone this year. When he went AA he was often deployed loose at HBF where he managed to get a lot of possessions, provided a lot of quality rebound, and with Simpson marshalled the backline very well. If he isn't going o be as effective in the future in playing that sort of role, then perhaps he should go onball where I would argue we need another quality, experienced player. Imagine having both captains working in tandem in the centre. Yes we would lose his presence and experience down back, but Weitering has developed into a star and we get Newman back next year and SPS finished the year off very well down back. Also Williams may yet play a lot of football across HBF. |
Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Paddycripps wrote: Thought it would be good to have a thread where posters can post ideas on how Carlton can be improved, be it on field or off field, that might be a bit leftfield. And hoping other posters if they disagree do so in a respectful manner. Here's one to get the sherrin moving... Play Doc onball in 2021 and beyond. It looks like opposition coaches took him out of his comfort zone this year. When he went AA he was often deployed loose at HBF where he managed to get a lot of possessions, provided a lot of quality rebound, and with Simpson marshalled the backline very well. If he isn't going o be as effective in the future in playing that sort of role, then perhaps he should go onball where I would argue we need another quality, experienced player. Imagine having both captains working in tandem in the centre. Yes we would lose his presence and experience down back, but Weitering has developed into a star and we get Newman back next year and SPS finished the year off very well down back. Also Williams may yet play a lot of football across HBF. I respectfully say this could be in one of about three other threads. |
Author: | jamespul65 [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
my idea is for the following players to have real hard preseason for example 6 weeks of running /weights/boxing toughen them up . SPS,setters,Gov,cunners,Lob,Williams(gws) because i am sick of watching our players not sticking those tackles therefore leading to goals . |
Author: | Teddy Hopkins [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
GET RATTEN! |
Author: | rhino27 [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
jamespul65 wrote: my idea is for the following players to have real hard preseason for example 6 weeks of running /weights/boxing toughen them up . SPS,setters,Gov,cunners,Lob,Williams(gws) because i am sick of watching our players not sticking those tackles therefore leading to goals . You working on the assumption that Dow is getting traded? |
Author: | 99prelim [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Get Voss as a senior assistant Get Lyon as a coaching director/mentor Both followed Carlton when they were young Invite 100 Carlton members every week to undertake a survey/evaluation (SWOT, PMI, Stop-Start-Keep) of onfield matters Keep the responses respectful, honest and solution focused Even if the responses are given 15-30 minutes as an agenda item for the Football Dept to discuss on a weekly basis, it shows that the members are empowered to be part of the solution If the Footy Dept. decide to follow up on just one item in a year that they would not have thought of, it's a win and a team efffort |
Author: | CK95 [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Not a bad idea, but if Lyon was coaching director the members evaluations would go straight to the bin |
Author: | Crusader [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
99prelim wrote: Get Voss as a senior assistant Get Lyon as a coaching director/mentor Both followed Carlton when they were young $6.5m cap on footy department spending. |
Author: | Donstuie [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
- Play four quarters of football. - Tackle. - Run both ways. - Don't let you or your teammates get pushed around. Revolutionary. |
Author: | Mickstar [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
With all due respect i don't think our Coach would be remotely interested in what we have to say.If he did,he would be the wrong man for the job. |
Author: | CC1961 [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Mickstar wrote: With all due respect i don't think our Coach would be remotely interested in what we have to say.If he did,he would be the wrong man for the job. NOT being willing to take input from a variety of sources would make him the Wrong man for the job. Here's my input: 1. Treat Liam Jones' time in the backline as 'rehabilitation' and whack him up forward again. 2. Braddles being as fit as F_u_K when he 'retired' probably STILL is - bring him BACK! |
Author: | 99prelim [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Mickstar wrote: With all due respect i don't think our Coach would be remotely interested in what we have to say.If he did,he would be the wrong man for the job. We'll agree to disagree on that. I didn't suggest that anything had to be taken onboard but maybe, just maybe, an interesting perspective could be fleshed out that nobody had previously thought |
Author: | Mickstar [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Faaark ! lighten up boys..........................OK i will put it this way.I would love to talk to Dave about our team but i would hope to christ he didn't listen to me................ |
Author: | 99prelim [ Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Mickstar wrote: Faaark ! lighten up boys..........................OK i will put it this way.I would love to talk to Dave about our team but i would hope to christ he didn't listen to me................ With all due respect, I know that I don't need to lighten up...I gave a 'left field' idea and respectfully disagreed with somebody who didn't like the idea |
Author: | keogh [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
My 2 cents Everybody knows what I think of our List Management strategies. Everyone knows that I think the majority of the board is out of touch with modern football and needs replacing Obviously judging by Williams pending recruitment the club won’t change their List Management procedures The board would be hard to replace. I assume the Pratt’s and Mathieson families are represented in the board because of money issues which to me is a shame. We are still paying for the financial fuckups of the past One thing that can change is the culture of the playing list Assuming we have a better and fully fledged reserves affiliated competition I would like Teague to reward senior spots on effort. We won’t go anywhere if blokes continue to get games despite weak efforts They arnt gifted games based on salary, number of games played or reputation It’s being going on for so long and is a noose around the club’s neck in a cultural aspect Pointless naming players You know who I mean. Case in point Cottrell should not have been dropped after the Swans game. Not because he kicked the winning goal. He drop the previous mark but it didn’t discourage him. He took a courageous mark and showed a bit of mongrel We are mentally weak. We give games to soft players. Teague needs to reward effort and fix this cancer once and for all. |
Author: | Sydney Blue [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
keogh wrote: My 2 cents Cotrell was woeful in that game apart from taking that one mark and goal.Everybody knows what I think of our List Management strategies. Everyone knows that I think the majority of the board is out of touch with modern football and needs replacing Obviously judging by Williams pending recruitment the club won’t change their List Management procedures The board would be hard to replace. I assume the Pratt’s and Mathieson families are represented in the board because of money issues which to me is a shame. We are still paying for the financial fuckups of the past One thing that can change is the culture of the playing list Assuming we have a better and fully fledged reserves affiliated competition I would like Teague to reward senior spots on effort. We won’t go anywhere if blokes continue to get games despite weak efforts They arnt gifted games based on salary, number of games played or reputation It’s being going on for so long and is a noose around the club’s neck in a cultural aspect Pointless naming players You know who I mean. Case in point Cottrell should not have been dropped after the Swans game. Not because he kicked the winning goal. He drop the previous mark but it didn’t discourage him. He took a courageous mark and showed a bit of mongrel We are mentally weak. We give games to soft players. Teague needs to reward effort and fix this cancer once and for all. If we are going to reward games based on one act we will never go anywhere. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk |
Author: | GWS [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
keogh wrote: My 2 cents Everybody knows what I think of our List Management strategies. Everyone knows that I think the majority of the board is out of touch with modern football and needs replacing Obviously judging by Williams pending recruitment the club won’t change their List Management procedures The board would be hard to replace. I assume the Pratt’s and Mathieson families are represented in the board because of money issues which to me is a shame. We are still paying for the financial fuckups of the past One thing that can change is the culture of the playing list Assuming we have a better and fully fledged reserves affiliated competition I would like Teague to reward senior spots on effort. We won’t go anywhere if blokes continue to get games despite weak efforts They arnt gifted games based on salary, number of games played or reputation It’s being going on for so long and is a noose around the club’s neck in a cultural aspect Pointless naming players You know who I mean. Case in point Cottrell should not have been dropped after the Swans game. Not because he kicked the winning goal. He drop the previous mark but it didn’t discourage him. He took a courageous mark and showed a bit of mongrel We are mentally weak. We give games to soft players. Teague needs to reward effort and fix this cancer once and for all. If only I had a cent for every time you'd offered two... |
Author: | keogh [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
Sydney Blue wrote: keogh wrote: My 2 cents Cotrell was woeful in that game apart from taking that one mark and goal.Everybody knows what I think of our List Management strategies. Everyone knows that I think the majority of the board is out of touch with modern football and needs replacing Obviously judging by Williams pending recruitment the club won’t change their List Management procedures The board would be hard to replace. I assume the Pratt’s and Mathieson families are represented in the board because of money issues which to me is a shame. We are still paying for the financial fuckups of the past One thing that can change is the culture of the playing list Assuming we have a better and fully fledged reserves affiliated competition I would like Teague to reward senior spots on effort. We won’t go anywhere if blokes continue to get games despite weak efforts They arnt gifted games based on salary, number of games played or reputation It’s being going on for so long and is a noose around the club’s neck in a cultural aspect Pointless naming players You know who I mean. Case in point Cottrell should not have been dropped after the Swans game. Not because he kicked the winning goal. He drop the previous mark but it didn’t discourage him. He took a courageous mark and showed a bit of mongrel We are mentally weak. We give games to soft players. Teague needs to reward effort and fix this cancer once and for all. If we are going to reward games based on one act we will never go anywhere. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk He had a dip Didn’t take the short steps He is very rough around the edges but he is a guy I wouldn’t dropped |
Author: | dane [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
I propose sakcing the entire list and recruiting hard nuts from state leagues. |
Author: | deano35 [ Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leftfield ideas |
I've got an idea. How about we play Fisher through the midfield. What about playing SPS as a high HF. And maybe we put Dow in the guts to see what he can do. |
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