Huh?

Whaddya mean exactly?

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Added edits to Jim's above...

Carlton's average score per quarter (as opposed to how many quarters won) and where we ranked vs other teams:

Qu 1: 16 pts (9th)
Qu 2: 15.9 (6th)
Qu 3: 13.3 (12th)
Qu 4: 14.5 (9th)

Soooo.....

summarising Jim's & my tables I have these observations:

The first quarter figures of quarters won and points scored in a 'ranking' level has us at 9th overall for Both.
Not a finals-playing proposition.
Jim's 87% is a for/agst % so shows us clearly losing both 1st & 2nd qs by the same proportion.

In Q2 our scoring is about the same but the 6th ranking just indicates other sides having a mixed bag with Q2 scoring as well. Again 9th in quarters won.

1st half summary = both quarters as bad as each other.

Despite the idea that we do these 'comebacks' after half time, Q3 is our worst for scoring this year and ranked 12th to other clubs accordingly.
The rise to 6th in 3rd Q won is indicative that we at least tighten up the scoring for the opposition and this is our Best defensive quarter with an average of 12.4 by opposition teams.

In fact only 3 other teams had less scored against them in 3rd Quarters (Geel, Coll, Freo)

3rd quarters thus dour, grinding affairs as Carlton has finally tried to get back into the game.
Finally restricting opposition yet NOT doing the heavy scoring that the 'Premiership Quarter' requires.

Finally, we won more 4th quarters than any other and are ranked equal 1st with 11 wins
These 'winning' last Qs included all our won games except Geelong and our losses to Rich, Melb, St.K, Port, Syd

The 5 we lost, we lost BADLY - Gee, Haw, WC, Coll, GWS where we generated a lowly total of 3 goals 7 points in the last across those games (or just 5 points in each match).

This resulted in our 'average' score per last quarter dropping BELOW each of the 1st & 2nd quarters at only 14.5 points (9th overall again)

Subtracting those 5 Disasters our remaining average for last quarters would have been 18.8 points ranking us 3rd behind only Geelong (21.1) and Melbourne (19.6)


Summary:
- we didn't come "flying out of the gates" as each game began
- and we were next to comatose as the 2nd halves began too.

Thus the irony is, we actually scored MORE in the 1st halves on average than we did in the 2nd halves by about 4 points.
As bad as our 1 quarter starts were, they were our highest scoring quarters.

Late flurries in 2/3 rds of our games in the last, though occasionally exciting, were not enough to undo the damage already done by slow starts after the first bounce and long break.

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I wish I had that much time on my hands

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This performance made me agree with Kane Cornes on something.

THAT'S how bad it was.....

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Maybe we’re just slower and less skilful but fitter than most other clubs so the longer the game goes the more telling our defensive pressure is and the better we compete overall?

If this is the case hopefully we’ll see much better results next year when we go back to full length quarters....

Ha.
Waking up at 1am (check post time)
sigh... with a thought in my head that turns into a "bee in my bonnet" and just had to write it down.

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I have been on a suger fix with your thread.

Seeing jims numbers brought me back down with a differing viewpoint.

I'm grateful for both.

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Thanks CC1961

Puts things in perspective when in ladder, but seeing the terrible actual numbers in the last against those 5 teams mentioned...

We are up and down, typical of an up and coming team, or, one on the decline. I think its the former.

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It's one thing I noticed through games this year, not necessarily Carlton games, is often scoring slowed overall after the first half. So often a side would score 5 goals in the first or 2nd qtr but finish with only 7 to 9 for the game. Brisbane beat Collingwood scoring 5 goals in the 2nd qtr and only one goal the other 3 qtrs. That might be why we are didn't alot but still rank highly for qtrs won after half time.

:thumbsup:

I think you will find Pornhub helps

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Sick puppy.

The awesome slinky blonde next to me (her words), says:
"Tell him why on Earth would you ever need to go there!"

You've done well CFC8795, you've prompted something...

signing off now.

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CC1961,
I'm glad you took it as a joke as I meant.
I'm also glad you used a proper noun for 'Earth'.
Cheers
May we both still be on TC when we achieve number 17

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You're pulling my leg.

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Get a room.

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One of the issues with COVID, not being able to train with more than 8 at a time. The issue is ongoing, a disconnect between our mids and forwards, something Teague talks about alot. Training with just 8 at a time didn't allow us to work on that at all, especially with fewer sessions. Certainly favored sides with well-entrenched, instinctive game styles.

Another thing that didn't help was, to the end of the GWS game, the 7 previous 2nd halfs had produced a score of 13.42! Kicking straight would've helped that goals from inside 50 percentage.

Wow, great observation Jim!
Hadn't noticed that.

Sigh...
another coach needed?
Is there an actual 'goal-kicking' coach?

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So Teague didn't have a phone?
No Zoom or WhatsApp?
He could've read TC for that matter.
He could have rung half the posters on here for advice.

Here's how to talk to your forward and midfield line coaches when you can't train together.

"Tell the freaking forwards to leave someone at home and tell the freaking mids to carry the footy another thirty metres and not to bomb it long from the wing to the 45 metre mark. Is that too hard to understand?"

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I do agree to an extent, but considering they have had multiple new inclusions, how did a side like StKilda excel with such restrictions?

Effing Brilliant my funny mexican-hat wearin' friend!

Funny how we're all still bleeding here in the post-Adelaide game thread...

What are the [REDACTED] chances any of your suggestions are 'trialled' today?

Y'know - "better late than never"

I'll be going so I'll do a post-match wide-viewing-angle report on what transpired.

I won't be holding my breath.

(and not coz of covid - Qld, mask-free, livin' the dream!!!)

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