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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:55 pm 
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Ffs I hope they show up next week.
The Lions game has 'cricket score' written all over it :cry:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:56 pm 
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london blue wrote:
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Weiters , Cripps Walsh Harry and Charlie Curnow are about the only players we should bother keeping.
The rest I wouldn't care if they were on the list next year.
And seriously if Levi and McGovern line up round 1 next year we are going no where.


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Not far off....I’d add TDK and Setterfield who has got his hands on the ball this year

Add Fisher. He can play if given the right opportunity.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:56 pm 
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london blue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Weiters , Cripps Walsh Harry and Charlie Curnow are about the only players we should bother keeping.
The rest I wouldn't care if they were on the list next year.
And seriously if Levi and McGovern line up round 1 next year we are going no where.


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Not far off....I’d add TDK and Setterfield who has got his hands on the ball this year


I still have hopes for Gibbons, Newnes & Martin...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:59 pm 
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I didn't log in during the game and I will wait to see what Bondi and CC say before I make a contribution to the thread.

My wife's uncle watched the game with me. He's 65 and has never seen a game of AFL before but has played and watched soccer all his life.
These were his comments at half time:

He has given himself a hard angle (McKay's first shot for goal from the boundary)
Carlton players have no urgency.
They are not playing with intent.
Adelaide players are trying harder.
They are playing like their positions on the table are reversed.
Why is the defence not playing in the defensive half?
When Murphy picked out the Adelaide player between two Carlton players:
What was that? It was an easy pass and he missed it?

In the second half:
Why didn't they play like this before? They are winning.

Teague can't see it.
Barker can't seeit.
The players can't see it.
We can see it.
A Mexican with zero knowledge of the game can see it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:07 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
I didn't log in during the game and I will wait to see what Bondi and CC say before I make a contribution to the thread.

My wife's uncle watched the game with me. He's 65 and has never seen a game of AFL before but has played and watched soccer all his life.
These were his comments at half time:

He has given himself a hard angle (McKay's first shot for goal from the boundary)
Carlton players have no urgency.
They are not playing with intent.
Adelaide players are trying harder.
They are playing like their positions on the table are reversed.
Why is the defence not playing in the defensive half?
When Murphy picked out the Adelaide player between two Carlton players:
What was that? It was an easy pass and he missed it?

In the second half:
Why didn't they play like this before? They are winning.

Teague can't see it.
Barker can't seeit.
The players can't see it.
We can see it.
A Mexican with zero knowledge of the game can see it.


Why wait for me to comment?
The Mexican saw it himself and said it all.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:11 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
I didn't log in during the game and I will wait to see what Bondi and CC say before I make a contribution to the thread.

My wife's uncle watched the game with me. He's 65 and has never seen a game of AFL before but has played and watched soccer all his life.
These were his comments at half time:

He has given himself a hard angle (McKay's first shot for goal from the boundary)
Carlton players have no urgency.
They are not playing with intent.
Adelaide players are trying harder.
They are playing like their positions on the table are reversed.
Why is the defence not playing in the defensive half?
When Murphy picked out the Adelaide player between two Carlton players:
What was that? It was an easy pass and he missed it?

In the second half:
Why didn't they play like this before? They are winning.

Teague can't see it.
Barker can't seeit.
The players can't see it.
We can see it.
A Mexican with zero knowledge of the game can see it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:11 pm 
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Adelaide in crap year for them achieved a number things that we couldn't ....

String 3 wins in a row
Beat Hawthorn
Beat GWS

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:14 pm 
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Ah,um...................what Shaw said yesterday .

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:15 pm 
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Did anyone pinch themselves at half time thinking the nightmare of the 1st quarter was behind us but wasn't?

Did you tell yourself. this can't be real.?

Gobsmacked?



Did you think keogh was right about something?
Did you think about McAdam and McGoverne trade, once, less than 6 more than 10?

Did you see favourite players and locks make mistake after mistake?
Were you disappointed in some players more than others?

If you did have some emotional twitch to the above, then maybe the club did/does too.
You just hope they know all the stuff we talk about, and if so, that's the good to come from all this inconsistency.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:16 pm 
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The most important things I wanted to see this year was a marked improvement in our second tier running/midfield players such as Dow, O’Brien, Cunningham, Fisher, SPS & Setterfield.

Apart from Setterfield, it just has not eventuated.

Our rebuild will be a failure if they don’t start improving quickly.

If you are going to hang your hat on rebuilding through early and more picks through the draft, then we have failed if these players don’t develop to the standard expected to win premierships.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:17 pm 
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jim wrote:
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Come back Gibbsy, we’ve got a minimum 16 vacancies!

Yet again, another (dis)honourable loss.

Yet again, a quarter and a bit of decent footy, the rest insipid, bruise free ball watching

Yet another unanswered 6-7 goal deficit allowed to occur before the team wakes up

Yet again zero tactical changes made by the coaching staff during gameplay

Yet again another match peppered with deplorable butchering of F50 entries

Yet again second to the ball, falling over on the spot, zero second efforts

Yet again no discernible structure, no hunger for the contest and far too many passengers

Does the Teague Train come with a 12 month manufacturer’s warranty? Not convinced by a long shot :mad:


Teague has years of shit to turn around. Was never happening in a season. 13-14 is a massive improvement on the previous 4-40. Just so much horrible shit that has to be turned around. He does need the side to take a step to finals next year though. Been similar to Ratten's first year.



He has had multiple opportunities to make statements and start to change the culture but has failed miserably, too late now. He needs to make a statement with who stays and who goes then keep going. First full year now so he needs to learn fast and and react faster.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:19 pm 
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Is there anything in repeated 5 day turnarounds that could account for some of this?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:19 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Did anyone pinch themselves at half time thinking the nightmare of the 1st quarter was behind us but wasn't?

Did you tell yourself. this can't be real.?

Gobsmacked?



Did you think keogh was right about something?
Did you think about McAdam and McGoverne trade, once, less than 6 more than 10?

Did you see favourite players and locks make mistake after mistake?
Were you disappointed in some players more than others?

If you did have some emotional twitch to the above, then maybe the club did/does too.
You just hope they know all the stuff we talk about, and if so, that's the good to come from all this inconsistency.


If they do know, they don't seem to be able to fix it.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:19 pm 
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london blue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Weiters , Cripps Walsh Harry and Charlie Curnow are about the only players we should bother keeping.
The rest I wouldn't care if they were on the list next year.
And seriously if Levi and McGovern line up round 1 next year we are going no where.


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Not far off....I’d add TDK and Setterfield who has got his hands on the ball this year


I think the backline as a group have been pretty reliable all year


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:20 pm 
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david31 wrote:
Completely unacceptable and pathetic effort.
We could not show up in the first half when we had a (mathematical) chance of playing finals and the Crows has nothing on the line.
Did not win the hard ball and then refused to run hard to defend once they got the ball. At half time, we were down 54-71 on contested possessions and 69-115 in uncontested possessions. Just deplorable.
Then at half time we decide to show up after being down 7 goals and only go down by 16 points. Imagine if we actually showed up from the first bounce.
Who are the leaders at this club? Who are the guys who won’t accept this. We’ve rolled out the same guys all year and continue to not show up for big portions of the game.
And what about the coach? Is he going to continue to accept this? Or will he make some changes and stop putting faith in the same guys that have had their opportunity to change the culture and failed. Time to put faith in a new group of guys who haven’t lost consistently for years on end.
While I’m on coaching, we’ve completely gone away from the offensive game style we started the year with. We’ve lost our dare to go through the corridor and take the game on. Too much slow, long down the line which gives our forwards no chance. When we finally moved the ball quickly, H was able to dominate against a much lesser opponent.
Time for Teague to take control and set standards. Otherwise we’re not going anywhere fast



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:21 pm 
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Read The match day thread, any page from 15 onwards...go to page 9...that's how fans feel.

Its an embarrassment for both the players and the Coach.

No excuses for me, Teague has to wear this.

17 games of 27 5 goal swings.
It is officially a joke let alone a nightmare for us.

He isn't switching them on.
They are not playing to game plan. They couldn't be. Crows looked like they did.
Blind Freddy will tell you they players are not playing for the Coach.
They did when they wanted a change of coach last year.

De Koning.

This kids made today enjoyable for me.
He would do anything to win. Endeavour.
Rare breed amongst this lot. This kid is GOLD.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:24 pm 
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london blue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Weiters , Cripps Walsh Harry and Charlie Curnow are about the only players we should bother keeping.
The rest I wouldn't care if they were on the list next year.
And seriously if Levi and McGovern line up round 1 next year we are going no where.


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Not far off....I’d add TDK and Setterfield who has got his hands on the ball this year
I will give you those 2 but seriously would we really miss any of the others.
Imagine if Murphy Simpson Curnow and Levi actually got upset when they lost.
They would be sitting in a padded room with dribble coming out of the corners of their mouth.

Losing doesn't matter to these blokes . Never has never will.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:24 pm 
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carntheblues wrote:
london blue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Weiters , Cripps Walsh Harry and Charlie Curnow are about the only players we should bother keeping.
The rest I wouldn't care if they were on the list next year.
And seriously if Levi and McGovern line up round 1 next year we are going no where.


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Not far off....I’d add TDK and Setterfield who has got his hands on the ball this year


I think the backline as a group have been pretty reliable all year


Only one has been mentioned for All Australian
He has carried the lot of them, since the Captain got spooked with tagging back 5 or 6 rounds.
Yeah they understand each other, but they are mistake ridden. All but 2.

Easy to guess who the 2 are and the 4 aren't.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:24 pm 
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WOW wrote:
The most important things I wanted to see this year was a marked improvement in our second tier running/midfield players such as Dow, O’Brien, Cunningham, Fisher, SPS & Setterfield.

Apart from Setterfield, it just has not eventuated.

Our rebuild will be a failure if they don’t start improving quickly.

If you are going to hang your hat on rebuilding through early and more picks through the draft, then we have failed if these players don’t develop to the standard expected to win premierships.


Tell me how they are supposed to develop when ALL are played out of position.
Fisher, Cunningham, Gibbons and Dow have played more forward then Midfield
SPS in defence has been absolutely wasted and his development gone.
It took 17 rounds to finally play Walsh in the middle. His first 12 weeks on a wing were average but he is a superstar and tried to make it work. Setterfield should be played off half Back as an intercept player or 70% forward swapping with Cripps in the middle.
O'Brien just a wasted year and is no where


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:26 pm 
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WOW wrote:
The most important things I wanted to see this year was a marked improvement in our second tier running/midfield players such as Dow, O’Brien, Cunningham, Fisher, SPS & Setterfield.

Apart from Setterfield, it just has not eventuated.

Our rebuild will be a failure if they don’t start improving quickly.

If you are going to hang your hat on rebuilding through early and more picks through the draft, then we have failed if these players don’t develop to the standard expected to win premierships.


Spot on

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