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Playing 2 ruckmen is playing 1 short.

We need one of Charlie or McGovern back and Pittonet out

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jake_h03 wrote:

jim wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

Playing 2 ruckmen is playing 1 short.

We need one of Charlie or McGovern back and Pittonet out

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Levi seems to play better when he rucks part time.

Always has. Gets to run around the ground and hand on the ball. Then takes that confidence back to the forward line. Since we've played 2 rucks he's struggled. Have to drop a ruck next week. Like TDK but we're up against Mummy on Thursday.

Who cares. Season is gone. Play TDK he is the future. Ceiling is 10x higher than Pittonet

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Season's not gone, just a game out but admittedly it's alot tougher now. Only a 4 day break for GWS.

Agree the TDK is the future.

It was like everybody was waiting for someone else to do it...........just waiting and waiting.Until we find bloke who WANT it we are going nowhere.Cant believe i have been so delusional.Up till today i actually believed.More false hope,another false dawn.Got suckered in to fools gold,AGAIN....................sorry,but its another rebuild,AGAIN.

jake_h03 wrote:

jim wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

jake_h03 wrote:

Playing 2 ruckmen is playing

Levi seems to play better when he rucks part time.

Who cares. Season is gone. Play TDK he is the future. Ceiling is 10x higher than Pittonet

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Season's not gone, just a game out but admittedly it's alot tougher now. Only a 4 day break for GWS.

Agree the TDK is the future.

Mathematically it’s not but we’re miles off. We need to develop for next year and beyond. Honestly couldn’t care less if we make finals or not this year, we will be making up the numbers. I want premierships. Play the players who are most likely to be part of our next premiership team

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20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise

Bring back Cottrell at least he has a bit of mongrel about him. That’ll bring us to a grand total of 1/22 with mongrel if he plays

Co Captains have been very average in games where we can't afford them to be. I'd be reassessing this at years end.

I've had enough of Plowman, too many errors.

Dow.. what a waste of a draft pick. Adds nothing.

I really hope Charlie can get it together and stay on the park, just so we can piss Casboult off, second efforts are embarrassing at the moment.

I hope this loss hurts, they don't deserve to play finals.

david31 wrote:

Bring back Cottrell at least he has a bit of mongrel about him. That’ll bring us to a grand total of 1/22 with mongrel if he plays

Gotta agree with that...he’s Robbo MkII. We needed to get more games into other players earlier. Dow and Polson a big ask against regular top 8 side for a finals spot. And we’re not 1 game out we’re 2....check the %

The draft is yet again our hilight of the year. We desperately need a big fish in the trade period...we have huge cap room which we’ll lose after this year. Must be a quality midfielder.

This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans.

This club has been letting me down for twenty years

I went into today’s game with some expectation

Not sure why when we looked ordinary with wins against Freo & Gold Coast

Cripps stating the Blues are back wasn’t a good sign

Not enough belief in this group

Lost the game in the third quarter when we dominated in patches and scored little

Same story with our forward 50 efficiency. Diabolical.

Whipping boys let us down - but we keep picking them and putting some of them on three year contracts.

Walsh wrote:

This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans.

Carlton 109.5 ave games
Collingwood 94.9

Carlton 9 less than 50, Collingwood 7
Carlton 5 players more than 150 games, Colingwood 3

Carlton 26y, Collingwood 26y

Author:	london blue [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:20 pm ]
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Can’t keeping backing the players after that last qtr effort. Beat us on the Contested ball and pressure acts. And we lack zip on the outside

Author:	kingkerna [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:21 pm ]
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jake_h03 wrote: Playing 2 ruckmen is playing 1 short. We need one of Charlie or McGovern back and Pittonet out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Agree, said during the week this would be the reason if we lost. With our lack of midfield depth we can't afford 2 rucks. Add to this that cas plays better when he gets a run as second ruck. Jones Walsh Betts Can hold their heads high, not many others Sent from my SM-G986B using Tapatalk

Author:	david31 [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:21 pm ]
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Bring back Cottrell at least he has a bit of mongrel about him. That’ll bring us to a grand total of 1/22 with mongrel if he plays

Author:	jake_h03 [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:22 pm ]
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jim wrote: jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Navy Blue Horse wrote: jake_h03 wrote: Playing 2 ruckmen is playing 1 short. We need one of Charlie or McGovern back and Pittonet out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Levi seems to play better when he rucks part time. Always has. Gets to run around the ground and hand on the ball. Then takes that confidence back to the forward line. Since we've played 2 rucks he's struggled. Have to drop a ruck next week. Like TDK but we're up against Mummy on Thursday. Who cares. Season is gone. Play TDK he is the future. Ceiling is 10x higher than Pittonet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Season's not gone, just a game out but admittedly it's alot tougher now. Only a 4 day break for GWS. Agree the TDK is the future. Mathematically it’s not but we’re miles off. We need to develop for next year and beyond. Honestly couldn’t care less if we make finals or not this year, we will be making up the numbers. I want premierships. Play the players who are most likely to be part of our next premiership team Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Author:	Walsh [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:23 pm ]
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This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans. We get another opportunity for that type of taste and experience on Thursday Probably missing Kennedy and Dow well, wouldn't drop him but needs to start impacting. Not wanting to single out Dow when Martin, Gibbons, Murphy, Polsen having sub average games but expect more from a top pick and not currently delivering.

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Author:	jim [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:23 pm ]
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Mickstar wrote: It was like everybody was waiting for someone else to do it...........just waiting and waiting.Until we find bloke who WANT it we are going nowhere.Cant believe i have been so delusional.Up till today i actually believed.More false hope,another false dawn.Got suckered in to fools gold,AGAIN....................sorry,but its another rebuild,AGAIN. Nothing delusional. A side that's come from the worst rabble imaginable to suddenly playing for a finals spot in 12 months. All they did was shit the bed in their biggest game in years. Part of development. We weren't going from bottom to top 4 in that time. We might win 8 or 9, which is probably more than many expected. Just not ready for the big time yet. Hardwick took 7 years to make Richmond a champion side.

Author:	Navy Blue Horse [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:24 pm ]
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20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise

Author:	jim [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:26 pm ]
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jim wrote: jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Navy Blue Horse wrote: jake_h03 wrote: Playing 2 ruckmen is playing Levi seems to play better when he rucks part time. Always has. Gets to run around the ground and hand on the ball. Then takes that confidence back to the forward line. Since we've played 2 rucks he's struggled. Have to drop a ruck next week. Like TDK but we're up against Mummy on Thursday. Who cares. Season is gone. Play TDK he is the future. Ceiling is 10x higher than Pittonet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Season's not gone, just a game out but admittedly it's alot tougher now. Only a 4 day break for GWS. Agree the TDK is the future. Mathematically it’s not but we’re miles off. We need to develop for next year and beyond. Honestly couldn’t care less if we make finals or not this year, we will be making up the numbers. I want premierships. Play the players who are most likely to be part of our next premiership team Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Fighting it out to the end for a finals spot will help development more than anything. That's how you learn. We've spent too long giving up at the drop of a hat. I want to learn under the most pressure possible so when we likely play better next year we can be prepared mentally as well as physically.

Author:	jake_h03 [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:28 pm ]
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise 100% But it’s not hindsight. Could see it a mile away Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Author:	jim [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:28 pm ]
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Navy Blue Horse wrote: 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise Yes, and likely Levi would've played better too getting a run on the ball. His form slump has come since we played two rucks. His more a forward/ruck than a full time forward.

Author:	killpies [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:33 pm ]
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Can some teach Cripps to kick at the right goal post. It seems every shot he has fades left for a behind.

Author:	MIL [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:36 pm ]
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david31 wrote: Bring back Cottrell at least he has a bit of mongrel about him. That’ll bring us to a grand total of 1/22 with mongrel if he plays Gotta agree with that...he’s Robbo MkII. We needed to get more games into other players earlier. Dow and Polson a big ask against regular top 8 side for a finals spot. And we’re not 1 game out we’re 2....check the % The draft is yet again our hilight of the year. We desperately need a big fish in the trade period...we have huge cap room which we’ll lose after this year. Must be a quality midfielder.

Author:	rhino27 [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:36 pm ]
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SackedByMack wrote: Co Captains have been very average in games where we can't afford them to be. I'd be reassessing this at years end. I've had enough of Plowman, too many errors. Dow.. what a waste of a draft pick. Adds nothing. I really hope Charlie can get it together and stay on the park, just so we can piss Casboult off, second efforts are embarrassing at the moment. I hope this loss hurts, they don't deserve to play finals. Agree with pretty much all of this. Would add H. Shitload of ability but very lazy and doesn't play smart.

Author:	WOW [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:38 pm ]
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This club has been letting me down for twenty years I went into today’s game with some expectation Not sure why when we looked ordinary with wins against Freo & Gold Coast Cripps stating the Blues are back wasn’t a good sign Not enough belief in this group Lost the game in the third quarter when we dominated in patches and scored little Same story with our forward 50 efficiency. Diabolical.

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Author:	AGRO [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:51 pm ]
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Whipping boys let us down - but we keep picking them and putting some of them on three year contracts.

Author:	Effes [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:52 pm ]
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Walsh wrote: This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans. Carlton 109.5 ave games Collingwood 94.9 Carlton 9 less than 50, Collingwood 7 Carlton 5 players more than 150 games, Colingwood 3 Carlton 26y, Collingwood 26y

Author:	Trigger [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:53 pm ]
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WOW wrote: This club has been letting me down for twenty years I went into today’s game with some expectation Not sure why when we looked ordinary with wins against Freo & Gold Coast Cripps stating the Blues are back wasn’t a good sign Not enough belief in this group Lost the game in the third quarter when we dominated in patches and scored little Same story with our forward 50 efficiency. Diabolical. Correct, same shit , different decade!!

Author:	Beijing Blue [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:54 pm ]
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AGRO wrote: Whipping boys let us down - but we keep picking them and putting some of them on three year contracts. Yes

Author:	Beijing Blue [ Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:56 pm ]
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Effes wrote: Walsh wrote: This is a young team that needs more experience in finals like games until they're mentally hardened... Collingwood outfit are veterans. Carlton 109.5 ave games Collingwood 94.9 Carlton 9 less than 50, Collingwood 7 Carlton 5 players more than 150 games, Colingwood 3 Carlton 26y, Collingwood 26y The lack of leadership is an indictment of these senior players.