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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:35 pm 
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As I have said before
As the season concludes you find out where you are at compared to the other 17 teams even in a shortened season
We are an average side . On a good day we are ok but in the long run we are simply average
Plowman very average 3 year deal yeah right panics shit kick
Polson should have been delisted 2 years ago
Murphy plays on next year wrong decision soft footballer when the heats on
Setterfield soft slow average kick second to the ball He ain’t a midfielder cost us 2 picks
Very overrated
Martin is so overrated not just today. Other than the opening game very ordinary this year IMO
Not taking that shot was pathetic
Simpson c u later champ
Casboult in the end a limited player although has got the most out of himself
Pittonet has a crack but is back up at best
Dow looks ordinary no more excuses still has 2 years to go on his contract
McKay so soft
OBrien top 10 pick unsighted this year
Cunningham 3 year deal has impacted in only a couple of games this year
I don’t know what it is but internally we overrate our list judging by the contracts handed out


As I said the AFL is a level playing field
Coaching no more Hird Voss Malthouse appointments
All clubs have good facilities
Soft cap
Salary cap
Drafting
Free agency does advantage better teams but not by much
It comes down to list management and recruiting
We are crap compared to other teams
And yes that includes SOS :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:39 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
jim wrote:
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20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Kennedy for a ruckman today would have been wise


Yes, and likely Levi would've played better too getting a run on the ball. His form slump has come since we played two rucks. His more a forward/ruck than a full time forward.


Yeah Nayh yeah

The 21yo De Koning showed them all up today.

Casboult and Pitto may not be the future; that's all


We're a game out, the "now" is still happening, so we put our best ruck line up out there. Worry about the rest when we are out of contention, which could be Thursday. Even then, a win over the Swans and Adelaide gets us to 8-8 (or 9-7, tough playing GWS off a 4 day break though), which means the Brisbane game could decide things. Thinking we miss out but want to be a chance for as long as possible. That teaches us more than looking at the future for the rest of the year. We've done that for years. Best learning will be playing under pressure.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:41 pm 
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Ive read the thread.

There's no one telling us how good the mature leaders were today.

I expect to hear from them when their faves have their one good game in 4.

FMD if it isn't obvious.

Other than losing...FMD...playing for frees instead of applying themselves...or, playing against talls with direspect when their bread and butter is smalls ... I can go on and you will know the culprits.

PROS

its 2020 and we are trialling a list full of first rounders and the last bastion of mature leaders ... or should I say dad's army? Just askin'

CONS

if we keep half this old brigade next year, we are going nowhere ... nah ... we will go backwards

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:43 pm 
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No one has blamed the coach yet, so I will.

No plan B when collingwood obviously had our plan figured out.

Big reason why they eventually got on top.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:43 pm 
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I thought we busted our arses and played better than them in the third quarter but just could not get the score on the board.
And then they ran over the top of us b/c we were exhausted and dropped our heads.

I love the way so many people call for SPS and Murphy to be dropped so that young players who have miraculously become Brownlow medal winners whilst away from the spotlight can come in and dominate. But they never do.
Stop bagging our better players - yes, they may stuff up here and there but They still do more than Polson and most of the younger players who are not ready.

If they show something, by all means keep them in to learn e.g. Dow who was crap today but has shown plenty in the past, but with crap disposal. But if you think Dow or Polson (or Honey or Cottrell for that matter) are going to come in and carry us to victory, rocks in head.

Teague has mostly been doing the right thing, bringing in one or two younger players here and there but keeping the more experienced players on the park and roughly the same structure.

I am very disappointed in the result today but it shows where we are at.
We have improved a lot but are still a 10-14 ranked team. Our best is eternal than that but we don’t yet have the consistency of intensity or concentration or skill to play at our best every minute of every game. Like Clarkson said about his powerful ?Hawks, we need to play harder and better for longer.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:43 pm 
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Compare Daicos with Dow.

Give Dow more games because I want to know if this guy is the real deal

He seemed to want to get the ball out of his habds asap when he's a line breaker with breakaway speed.

Need to see it before we trade him to Cats. He might just have it but we dont know.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:46 pm 
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Dreading going down to Metricon on Thursday night, GWS are awake now and will absolutely slap us if/when we put on a shitful display like that again :yikes:




I'll see you there!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:47 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
No one has blamed the coach yet, so I will.

No plan B when collingwood obviously had our plan figured out.

Big reason why they eventually got on top.

He is very rigid and doesn’t make enough moves
The momentum swung half way in the third but the coach did stuff all about it
Can’t play Pittonet and tdk in the one team


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:50 pm 
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Cripps can go and get himself fixed up: upstairs and downstairs
Casboult is...was my CHF for 202, but he was ultra disappointing.

How ofetn do Levi and Murph play for the free? I'll leave the number to you...lets start with number of times for a match.

De Koning Walsh Fish ... these kids are GOLD

Dow might be, but need to see more.

Martin could have been a hero ut something short there with his confidence.

Williamson ... yeah mate ... take the game on ... I love it... but you need a right foot too...Simmo showed one when he needed.
Willo has been aveage for mine this year. Had to say it. Yeah he may be the future, but FMD he loves to run into trouble and dpuble it in the one confrontation when he can

Plow was really good against the smalls tonight. :sly:

When are our defenders going to understand the importaaanxce of touch of the opponet to know ehere they are? ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:51 pm 
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I thought we busted our arses and played better than them in the third quarter but just could not get the score on the board.


I love the way so many people call for SPS and Murphy to be dropped...





Agree.

Murphy does not like a physical contest one little bit.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:51 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Compare Daicos with Dow.

Give Dow more games because I want to know if this guy is the real deal

He seemed to want to get the ball out of his habds asap when he's a line breaker with breakaway speed.

Need to see it before we trade him to Cats. He might just have it but we dont know.
Dow has played more games than Daicos

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:53 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
No one has blamed the coach yet, so I will.

No plan B when collingwood obviously had our plan figured out.

Big reason why they eventually got on top.

He is very rigid and doesn’t make enough moves
The momentum swung half way in the third but the coach did stuff all about it
Can’t play Pittonet and tdk in the one team


Before you focus on the weakness in the ruck, focus on the coaches big moves.

But, lets go to the rucks if you like...what did you like about them and tell us about theflipside playing both.

Which one do you keep? What would you do when Kreuzer is available? Curious.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:55 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Compare Daicos with Dow.

Give Dow more games because I want to know if this guy is the real deal

He seemed to want to get the ball out of his habds asap when he's a line breaker with breakaway speed.

Need to see it before we trade him to Cats. He might just have it but we dont know.
Dow has played more games than Daicos

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:lol:

He looked lost though.
Didn't take on the game.
Looked to give it off...shouldn't tho

Use your god given talents FFS boy ... you can do it.

Shat their pants. Coaches?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:56 pm 
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We need more mids
The guys who were recruited for those roles have so far not delivered in that area
SPS
O’Brien
Kennedy
Setterfield
Dow
Cuningham
Stocker where is he
Lang
Martin
Polson
These guys are meant to be are midfield that bats deep
When Ed Curnow still stands out as the second best mid like dogs ball it says many things
When Collingwood started to gain ascendancy in the third we had no answer
In terms of the teams list this is where the problem lies


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:56 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Compare Daicos with Dow.

Give Dow more games because I want to know if this guy is the real deal

He seemed to want to get the ball out of his habds asap when he's a line breaker with breakaway speed.

Need to see it before we trade him to Cats. He might just have it but we dont know.
Dow has played more games than Daicos

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:lol:

He looked lost though.
Didn't take on the game.
Looked to give it off...shouldn't tho

Use your god given talents FFS boy ... you can do it.

Shat their pants. Coaches?
Always looks lost cant find the footy at this level

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:57 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
No one has blamed the coach yet, so I will.

No plan B when collingwood obviously had our plan figured out.

Big reason why they eventually got on top.


I'm happy to criticise what never happened.

His favourites let him down, or, he let his favourites down ,,, by not getting them out of the deep water.

Reminded me of Bolton's endure policy.... but I'll stick Phat ... for now.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:00 pm 
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We were out of our depth .
Pies were one of the flag favourites not so long back.
They hit a flat spot and we thought we could get them.
We are not good enough.
To many go missing when pressure is on.
Martin steps up slots the goal before half time and then the confidence rises.
He is being carltonised.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:00 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Compare Daicos with Dow.

Give Dow more games because I want to know if this guy is the real deal

He seemed to want to get the ball out of his habds asap when he's a line breaker with breakaway speed.

Need to see it before we trade him to Cats. He might just have it but we dont know.
Dow has played more games than Daicos

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:lol:

He looked lost though.
Didn't take on the game.
Looked to give it off...shouldn't tho

Use your god given talents FFS boy ... you can do it.

Shat their pants. Coaches?
Always looks lost cant find the footy at this level

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Gee I hope you're not right.

He has to sprint to space when he has it.
Its basic
He didn't do it, and I know he use to try and do it when he was skinnier.

I thibk we may have stripped him of confidence playing him as an 18yo when he was no Tim Watso, Jim Bucklet or Ken Sheldon wjo could do it at 16yo and younger

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:01 pm 
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Senior players who were poor:
Murphy
Cripps
Docherty
Plowman
Casboult
Martin

Senior players who stood up:
Curnow
Weitering
Newnes
Betts
Jones

Senior players who were just ok:
Simpson

Young players who were poor:
McKay

Young players who were good:
Walsh
Fisher
Setterfield

The rest:
De Koning
Dow
Polson
Gibbons
Pittonet
Williamson

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:02 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
We were out of our depth .
Pies were one of the flag favourites not so long back.
They hit a flat spot and we thought we could get them.
We are not good enough.
To many go missing when pressure is on.
Martin steps up slots the goal before half time and then the confidence rises.
He is being carltonised.



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That's when you ned your 25yo to show leadership.

Look, maybe he was gassed at the time and we dont know so shouldnt judge, but on face value....FMD

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