Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
We are talking about Jones here. He's had more than one bad game.
He has lost the plot. He's lacking common sense on the last line of defense this last month.
Gosh his first quarter of 2020 was a disaster.
Problem is, we have no back up Full Back to replace him. That doesn't imply he's having a good year. Maybe Goddard's form makes him a better option, but he didnt play any scratch match on the weekend.
In a nutshell, Jones has been terrible this year. I hope he picks up his game, and sticks to the basics that made him successful: stick to your man and punch the ball away towards the boundary.
On that Jones-Moore comparison, I'm not sure if there's anyone who would select/take Jones before Moore for the backline, or the forwardline, come to think of it.
Goddard? FFS.
No one is saying Jones is better than Moore but who in their right mind would pay top dollar to get Darcy Moore? I
Moores injury history is terrible and as I said above, he isn't the messiah people make him out to be. He was hidden in the forward line last week after Josh Kennedy ripped them a new one.
People focus on Jones' negatives and dont look at his strengths. If you want to talk turnovers, Jacob Weitering averages more turnovers per game than Jones.
Jones is 3rd in the AFL for one percenters per game (behind Andrews and Barrass) and he's our second highest player for intercepts behind Docherty.
He's carried our backline against talls for 3 years now. We have a game style that has us conceding the 3rd most points in the AFL. Try playing defence with our 1 paced midfield.
He's an easy target copping it unfairly IMO.
I understand the support for Jones. I get it. We all know why he's there at FB.
But, like all the list, he is not immune to criticism, and his weaknesses should be called out, just as his achievements should be.
No need to get all precious about Jones or anyone with flaws in their game.
Jones was a revelation at FB in The Bullants in 2017. Resurrected his career. His weapon being his height and ability to punch the ball away ie kill the ball.aka 1%ers
Statistics don't show everything. There's more going on in his game than his one percenters. We are not talking about Weitering or Moore, my focus is on what Jones has been doing wrong this year and why and what is needed to improve this situation. That's fair to me.
Logic says, either you replace him with someone better, or, he fixes problems that didn't happen as often from round 11 in 2017 when he was selected to play in the team he was discarded from and had his papers stamped. At the time, we had Rowe FB and Jack Silvagni CHB, with Weiters in the Ressies. Macreadie had just got injured again, as dis Rowe in this round. Jones got his chance.
Doesn't matter how you cut it, Jones has been playing below the level he has in last couple of years, and his last month has been terrible.
Is there a statistic that shows how many times he's let his opponent to take the easy mark, or shot at goal?
Is there a statistic that shows his decisions that gave the opposition an easy goal? not necassrily his opponent.
Despite all the statistics on hand, everyone can agree he's out of form.
That's all I'm saying; Jones is out of form.
The Moore comparison
The Goddard replacement
Weiterings numbers
None of the above diversions mask the fact that Jones is out of form. Sure he takes a mark here and there, but so do his opponents, and he drops a lot too.
There's no doubt imo there's Common sense missing, hence why I suggest Jones may have lost the plot.
He doesn't pay his opponent enough respect imo, and hasn't applied disciplined 101 backline basics, body on body, or close enough to get the spoil.
Sure he gets a few spoils etc, but he has brain fades. He's 198cm and he can make that work for him better; like he did in 2017 and 2018 in particular.
Admittedly, Buddy give him a bath one night at the SCG in 2018, with a 10 goal display, all because Jones gave him 10 metres of space, all game, but he fixed that in 2018: he paid no respect and giving that much space, he couldn't close, lacked common sense. It was all over the media at the time. He said he learned from that and he did. The same problem imo has crept into his game in 2019 and moreso in 2020; that's all. History repeating. Nothing new, Nothing that can't be fixed.
I'm sure every Carlton supporter has shaken their head whilst witnssing some of the glaring mistakes Jones has made and continues to make, usually leaking a goal.
Just because we don't have anyone pressuring Jones for his spot, (and Goddard's name was the proof there isn't an alternative), doesn't mean Jones is in great form at FB, nor does it mean that he doesn't need to improve his defensive basics.
Just as Jones replaced Rowe to improve our defence in round 11 2017, Carlton's quest to for a better option at FB in our quest for Flag 17 should continue (and I hope Austin is looking), and until we do that, we should all want Jones to improve his craft in defence to the level circa 2017, and stop making glaring stupid mistakes only Jones seems to make regularly, and that's the point, its not a one off mistake.
Moral to the story: there's always room for improvement. Everyone. The club should'nt hide from that, nor should we have to on these forums.
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