I’m intrigued to think we could As easily be sitting 6 and 2 and clear top of the ladder, or 2 and 6 and only Adelaide below us - with The 4 games decided last second (of which we have a 2 and 2 record which is probably about right)

So our game play (apart from the last minute) is both the best and the worst in the comp and Half way through the season we have a chance to choose our destiny. 9 and 8 with an ok percentage should go close to making finals. Beat the teams below us like we should, and pick off one of the teams around us and we go close.

Week in, week out I’m interested In the games and it’s been many years since that has been the case

I think it's bloody exciting that i woke up and still felt a bit frustrated at a win.

Remember when we never won?

We are developing nicely.

Agree Deano I was saying to someone today that I’m getting worse watching because of have greater expectations in terms of the team and who they should beat
We are developing nicely lots of upside with this side H Kennedy SPS Pitto Williamson weitering setters Walsh all got great upside
Fisher JSOS Dow Charlie O’Brien Stocker Kemp Philip all upside too
Additions of Doc Martin Newnes and Pittonet have given us 4 seasoned footballers to add to our side

Credit to Plow. Was excellent today. As was Curnow on Simpkin.

Carlton’s Patrick Cripps ($750) and North Melbourne’s Jed Anderson ($500) can accept fines for wrestling

The MRO has charged Cripps with wrestling... joke of a sport

I'd submit the spectator video of Cripps being double scragged in front of the blind Maggot and say please explain ?

How much is any player expected to put up with week in week out ?

Plowman was good. I especially give him credit for not punching the umpire who did not award him a mark when he took two grabs to secure it. During both grabs he was a metre away from the nearest North player and clearly no other player went anywhere near touching it.

I commented to friends whilst watching the game that I cannot understand how the umpires make so many wrong calls nowadays. I do not recall an umpire making so many mistakes when we only had one central umpire. They regularly pay a holding the ball immediately after a player is tackled when he has no possible chance to handball it. Thirty seconds later the same umpire pays a high tackle free kick to the side that received a free for the holding the ball decision. The two tackles were identical but were adjudicated 180 degrees differently less than a minute apart by the same umpire.
If the umpires are incapable of interpreting the rules consistently, then the rules need to be simplified ( or the umpires educated!)

I'd submit the spectator video of Cripps being double scragged in front of the blind Maggot and say please explain ?

How much is any player expected to put up with week in week out ?

Plowman was good. I especially give him credit for not punching the umpire who did not award him a mark when he took two grabs to secure it. During both grabs he was a metre away from the nearest North player and clearly no other player went anywhere near touching it.

I commented to friends whilst watching the game that I cannot understand how the umpires make so many wrong calls nowadays.

Teague was a tough player but not in that manner.
I was thinking at 3/4 time he should say what Wallsy said about Clarkson.

We don't have anybody who will make these flower accountable. Cripps has never retaliated like he did last night so whatever set it off must have been pretty severe. The Pittard thing was right on the siren. After the siren went, someone should have charged him and sat him on his arse like he did to Murphy. No report, maybe a melee to follow but we can't be seen as soft cocks like we are currently perceived.
Remember how they pushed Weitering around in 2018? He just put up with it over and over again being called a sook on and off the field. If it had have been me and I was in danger of getting dropped to the twos on form anyway, I'd have broken someone's nose and taken the six weeks.
Maybe we can give Moore one final game with a bonus for weeks served. He has the tough haircut.

It's why I wanted us to go hard for Powell Pepper last year. he couldn't get a game at PA but he can play and he is a hard nut. Look at him now. One of their better performed players every week.

There is a difference between negativity and reality
The reality is we are 9 th with four teams below us who have played less games.

So in terms of the ladder that is where we are at.
Of course with sport anything can happen particularly in this crazy year
I think we are still an average side getting better.
How much better is the unknown.

I barrack for Carlton but I’m not one eyed and so utterly 100 % biased like some on here.
There were a few posters like me on here who have gone but I like giving the other point of view.
Example of that the umpiring yesterday
It was terrible both ways particularly when the rain came.
Clearly the umpires have been instructed to pay the holding the ball when the guy has a milli second to get rid of it. This is to keep the game moving because overall the game is an ordinary spectacle at the moment. Problem is when a forward gets pinged he has an eternity to get rid of it because the umpires shit themselves about handing a goal to a team.
In happened to both teams yesterday not just Carlton

In regards to being negative on players
I have Given a pat on the back to Kennedy and Setterfield two guys I have bagged
Kennedy has obviously finally realized how fit you have to be
Setterfield is growing in confidence which is good to see
They need to
They cost us pick 28 around a pick 20 and pick 43
They need to play like that on a regular basis with Cripps struggling

To call a team shit and imply that our brand is superior when we have a 50% win/loss record after being in the football wilderness for 8 years is such a biased retarded comment it deserves some response

I will be there Friday cheering the guys on but tempered with realistic expectations
That’s the way I roll
Yes we should beat Hawthorn on form but form fluctuates in a very even competition
If the players think “Hawthorn is shit” we are in serious trouble

We need to learn the art of pack brutality, ie. next time Pittard goes into a contested situation, he comes out feeling the full affects of the contest.

Plowman was good. I especially give him credit for not punching the umpire who did not award him a mark when he took two grabs to secure it. During both grabs he was a metre away from the nearest North player and clearly no other player went anywhere near touching it.

I commented to friends whilst watching the game that I cannot understand how the umpires make so many wrong calls nowadays. I do not recall an umpire making so many mistakes when we only had one central umpire. They regularly pay a holding the ball immediately after a player is tackled when he has no possible chance to handball it. Thirty seconds later the same umpire pays a high tackle free kick to the side that received a free for the holding the ball decision. The two tackles were identical but were adjudicated 180 degrees differently less than a minute apart by the same umpire.
If the umpires are incapable of interpreting the rules consistently, then the rules need to be simplified ( or the umpires educated!)

Carlton have. They've shown the AFL a few videos.