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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:47 am 
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Ken Hunter
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AGRO wrote:
Plowman (like a lot of our players) look like they’ve never seen the inside of the weights room at Princes Park.


I thought this was intentional. Plowman needs to play on mid-type forwards and not the bigger units. He will be asked to play across half back at times.

Fritsch is a bloody good young player and when he bulks up, with he’s height will be dominating. I wish we had him.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:49 am 
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I thought I could take a “couldn’t care less” attitude to this season which will always have an asterix but ... dammit, when the navy blues genes are embedded in your DNA? Fat chance.

Sweet baby Jesus. Have the other teams figured us out or what? Sheesh. Seriously, they pore over the fixture when it’s released, their eyes scanning furiously for “Carlton”. If they see it once there’s a collective sigh of relief. Twice and the room* erupts with joy.

Eddie Betts? Yeah - flashy, exciting, good for a miracle goal or three per year. Guaranteed to fill the club’s cupboards with Premiership Cups. NOT!

And here’s a headline you’ll NEVER see:

“Murphy’s scintillating first quarter really set the tone for the rest of the match. He cut his way through the midfield like a knife through butter, leaving enemy soldiers strewn about the battlefield in scenes reminiscent of Polanksi’s film adaptation of Macbeth”.

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* er, Zoom meeting - Carlton aren’t professional or savvy enough to use Skype for Business or MS Teams


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:04 am 
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JSOS to the midfield for the rest of his career
Teach him, develop him and condition him
He seems like a very coachable kid because he has no hidden agenda...he just bleeds navy blue
Could be a star by the age of 25

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:12 am 
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After watching yesterday's ''performance'', and with memories of the final game of last season still vivid, I can't see reason to be optimistic about the return visit to Geelong. None whatsoever !!

What's left, being hopeful ? Nah, after awhile being hopeful becomes tedious.

Yesterday was shit, and we lost by a point. On that form if we lose to Geelong by less than 100 we will have ''done well''.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:18 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:

I thought Ed was very good. After Petracca torched Walsh in the first quarter, Ed did a job on him him.
In fact, I think Ed is extremely underrated by Carlton fans. He's the one player on our list who gives 100% every game and does whatever job he's given to the best of his ability.


Rubbish.

Go and watch that 1st quarter again.

Walsh is playing on the wing.

Murphy is Petraccas direct opponent.

Petracca got all his 7 possessions in the first quarter against Murphy. 6 of those possessions was in the first 10 minutes. Walsh was no where near Petracca...and thhe guy who should have been, Murphy, wasn't either when he should have.

In the first 30 seconds of play, Murphy got brushed aside twice by Petracca, with ease, and the 2nd possession was a kick to SPS and his opponent, who beat SPS ....kicks to Fritsch.

No one doubts Ed gives 100%. He's a role player. He is not a class midfielder or play maker. He does his best work when he tags. Period.


Murphy got embarrassed by Petracca for the first 6 or 7 minutes, then went to half forward for a few minutes, then played on Brayshaw, Viney and then loose for the remaining few minutes. Covered a ton of territory but did little.

Teague shouldn't be asking Murphy to be a central figure of this team at this stage of Murphs career.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:25 am 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
We just have to face it.
There’s no killer I instinct in our players.
Mediocrity has been celebrated for Far too long.
So many had the chance to stand up in the last term and shat the bed.
Sick and tired of losing
Sick and tired of ‘brave losses’
Sick if the putrid skill errors and kicking for goal that’s been an issue forever.
Sick and tired of slow starts and waiting til we’re 6-7 goals down to start playing decent footy.
The sad thing is, I expected a lot of what we served up to happen. Knew we’d do this after all the self tyre pumping we’ve been doing over the COVID break. ‘The players are sick of losing’, ‘We came back in great shape’, ‘The players are Really motivated and ready to step up’ ‘We have to be better for longer’ blah blah blah.
Same old words but no action. Same old Carlton unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:25 am 
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In the first qtr at least there were spectators at Marvel. About 14 of 'em wearing Carlton guernseys.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:08 pm 
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I won't bother watching next week's game. There's more to life than watching this inept football team.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:54 pm 
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I’m still waiting for the Cripps midfield reinforcement.

3 years down the track and we have not added to our midfield with mature seasoned recruits.

Bloody hell even Rockliff rejected us!

You can never get enough quality midfielders in your team.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:02 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
You can never get enough quality midfielders in your team.



We are the proof of that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:25 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
I’m still waiting for the Cripps midfield reinforcement.

3 years down the track and we have not added to our midfield with mature seasoned recruits.

Bloody hell even Rockliff rejected us!

You can never get enough quality midfielders in your team.
Players like Rockliff reject us because they don't want to be the next Palmer Smedts Lang Wiley or Kennedy rotting away in reserve whilst we were playing teeny boppers who should be learning their craft .

It is happening to a lesser extent now but it is still there for everyone to see

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:46 pm 
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When do we play Adelaide?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:49 pm 
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AFL will schedule us against GC and Adelaide away so tgry can maximise the home team advantage


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:55 pm 
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(cue piano-based commercial jingle) : as a busy dad with a @#$%&! off big mortgage, I don't have the time nor the disposable income to watch daytime Carlton matches on pay TV. So can someone with greater insight suggest why we consistently start so poorly? It seems the obvious response is that the players are not switched on, but is that really likely to happen every week? Surely our coaching staff are not OK with that? Is it more a tactical issue, where we don't assign tags until later in the game? In the free-TV games I do watch, our recovery always seems to involve Ed going onto the bloke who got 15 pozzies in the 1st Q, limiting him to 10 or fewer in the last 3. Are we stubbornly trying to "play our own game", just like Bolton stubbornly stuck to whatever the @#$%&! that was, even when we couldn't crack 50 points in most games? Is it only when being reactive that our quality shines through, and should we take pride in being a fast-reacting side rather than obsess over proactivity (sic)?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:56 pm 
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How many years now 0-3 to start a season ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:02 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
How many years now 0-3 to start a season ?


I haven't checked but is it every year since 2013?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:21 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
(cue piano-based commercial jingle) : as a busy dad with a @#$%&! off big mortgage, I don't have the time nor the disposable income to watch daytime Carlton matches on pay TV. So can someone with greater insight suggest why we consistently start so poorly? It seems the obvious response is that the players are not switched on, but is that really likely to happen every week? Surely our coaching staff are not OK with that? Is it more a tactical issue, where we don't assign tags until later in the game? In the free-TV games I do watch, our recovery always seems to involve Ed going onto the bloke who got 15 pozzies in the 1st Q, limiting him to 10 or fewer in the last 3. Are we stubbornly trying to "play our own game", just like Bolton stubbornly stuck to whatever the @#$%&! that was, even when we couldn't crack 50 points in most games? Is it only when being reactive that our quality shines through, and should we take pride in being a fast-reacting side rather than obsess over proactivity (sic)?


IMO it all starts in the midfield.

When the game is at its hottest, its in the first quarter from the first bounce.
The opposition have big midfielders going in hard, breathing fire till they run out of gas.
We put in two midgets Ed and Murph and a skinier version of Colossal Cripps to fight it out.

Cripps is nullified and the 2 midgets get smashed hard in close and overrun trying to win the ball.

When the damage is done, the opposition midfielders rotate out and we are left to adjust in the next quarter by tagging their most damaging player, get Murph out of the midfield and get Setterield Walsh to help out Cripps...and we slowly crawl our way back because we have superior running ability because we are light on our feet.

It might be as simple as starting with a big bodied midfield group such as Cripps, Jack and Walsh and possbily se Ed to tag after the bounce.

It looks too simple. There must be more to it. Breathing fire and an uncompromising attack on the ball and the man may quell the opposition's sense of dominance early enough to avoid the damage of a bad start.

We need a better mid field group, and I have to say its hard to believe but the opposition have worked out ways to nullify Cripps. Its up to Cripps to work through that. He is allowing the opposition to dominate him. He gets no chop out from the midgets.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:58 pm 
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I really want the Swans to beat the Druggies today. I couldn't stand any more pain this weekend. :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:02 pm 
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jim wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
How many years now 0-3 to start a season ?


I haven't checked but is it every year since 2013?

Haven’t won either of our first two games since 2012. There’s maybe one or two 1-2 starts since then. It’s just so frustrating that we had the opportunity to get a win against a garbage side and we decided to not show for 1.5 quarters. The lack of pressure, intensity and effort in that first quarter was so far off the required standard that we shouldn’t expect to beat anyone playing like that.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:10 pm 
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I missed the first qtr, was driving. But it sounded horrible on radio

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