TalkingCarlton :: View topic - How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?

We will come out of it at the other end because we have the supporter base to do it and the history to back us up .

The only way to cut senior lists and play a season of footy is for each team to have a team in the second tier league. On top of that, they have a feeder U18 club, ours being the Northern Nights, for example.
It's a variation of the firsts, seconds and U19s. Teams get dibs on their U18 club which substitutes for their academy.

Games involving a Vic club which traditionally attract crowds less than 20k get played at PP, which is already being developed for the AFLW and has a great surface. The facilities need an upgrade but the need for a boutique oval to cut costs of games that run at a loss is paramount.

The premise for raising GCS, the population growth of the region has not turned into crowd numbers. Move them to Tassie lock, stock and playing list and watch the Tassie crowds get behind them. Kick Hawthorn out of Tassie to make it a one team state.

The big issue will be the first year back, next year. I doubt all clubs will get through this, perhaps resulting in mergers or foldings. Fortunately we are in a much better off-field state than we were a few years ago. Had this happened in say, 2016 when we were up to our ears in debt, we wouldn't have come through it. Maybe now is the time to merge with North.

There is an entire other possibility, which is that Eddie and Bloody Jeff get together with the interstate presidents and a super-league of say nine teams is formed, whereby each play each other twice and then the finals start. It happened with the NRL and there is no real reason why it couldn't happen with the AFL. If the GF were played in different venues like the superbowl, it would make it more attractive for the interstate teams and get rid of the reliance on the MCG, which would not be available due to its contracts with the AFL. If it looks like half a dozen clubs are going to prop up the other twelve, I think this is a real possibility. The mere threat of it will make the AFL sit up and consider tough options that would otherwise be unthinkable.

The XFL in the USA is proving a success from a TV point of view. It came from nowhere. The players are not contracted to the NFL teams but they were putting on a good show before this thing closed them down. Someone thought outside the box.

Author:	CK95 [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:40 am ]
Post subject:	How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
This time next year will we be watching the Carlton as we know it? What's going to change? Which AFL clubs are under the most threat? Sent from my LG-X240 using Tapatalk

Author:	murraycray [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:57 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
I'd love to be able to have some positive answers to your questions. But right now I've got nothin'.

Author:	kingkerna [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:16 am ]
Post subject:	How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Cut gold coast and gws loose, AFL can't complain about money while throwing it at these guys. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Author:	moshe25 [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:08 am ]
Post subject:	How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
I wonder if they keep drawing membership dues from the credit card. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Author:	GWS [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:34 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Charlie will still be injured.

TalkingCarlton http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/

How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown? http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36864	Page 1 of 11

Author:	Humpers [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:02 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
kingkerna wrote: Cut gold coast and gws loose, AFL can't complain about money while throwing it at these guys. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk A big superdraft might be coming up.... If so I'm glad we haven't traded any future picks. Salary cap could be a problem.

Author:	Trigger [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Go Back to the vfl, playing at princess park.

Author:	Cazzesman [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Below is the membership totals of all 18 clubs for 2019: Club 2018 2019 Richmond 100,726 103,358 West Coast Eagles 80,290 90,445 Collingwood 75,507 85,226 Essendon* 79,319 84,237 Hawthorn 80,302 81,211 Geelong Cats 63,818 65,063 Adelaide Crows 64,739 64,437 Carlton 56,005 64,269 Sydney Swans 60,934 61,912 Melbourne 44,275 52,421 Port Adelaide 54,386 51,951 Fremantle 55,639 51,431 Western Bulldogs 43,246 44,373 St Kilda 46,301 43,038 North Melbourne 40,789 42,419 GWS GIANTS 25,243 30,109 Brisbane Lions 24,867 28,023 Gold Coast SUNS 12,108 13,649 Total 1,008,494 1,057,572 No idea either but it will be the great balance between what can be salvaged from the TV rights money vs AFL expenditure. Your Norths and Doggies will have those belts well and truly tightened. All plans for various ground and club expansions will be in 'No man's land'. Regards Cazzesman

Author:	Rexy [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
ShaneO will still be holding the magnet board

Author:	AGRO [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?

Author:	Cazzesman [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Rexy wrote: ShaneO will still be holding the magnet board After a nuclear war and/or pandemic there are always the ultimate survivors..........ShaneO is certainly one of them. One of life's gentlemen. Regards Cazzesman

Author:	AGRO [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Will become this century’s Newton Chandler.

Author:	Rexy [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Quote: Cut gold coast and gws loose, AFL can't complain about money while throwing it at these guys. I'd keep them and add 2 more teams. More games = more tv revenue 30 player lists with ability to draw on state league top ups if req 2 conferences of 10 teams 18 round Home and Away season Top 6 in each conference play finals.

Author:	AGRO [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Another year of compromised drafts - no thank you.

Page 1 of 11	All times are UTC + 10 hours
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/

Author:	Blue Sombrero [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
We will come out of it at the other end because we have the supporter base to do it and the history to back us up . The only way to cut senior lists and play a season of footy is for each team to have a team in the second tier league. On top of that, they have a feeder U18 club, ours being the Northern Nights, for example. It's a variation of the firsts, seconds and U19s. Teams get dibs on their U18 club which substitutes for their academy. Games involving a Vic club which traditionally attract crowds less than 20k get played at PP, which is already being developed for the AFLW and has a great surface. The facilities need an upgrade but the need for a boutique oval to cut costs of games that run at a loss is paramount. The premise for raising GCS, the population growth of the region has not turned into crowd numbers. Move them to Tassie lock, stock and playing list and watch the Tassie crowds get behind them. Kick Hawthorn out of Tassie to make it a one team state. The big issue will be the first year back, next year. I doubt all clubs will get through this, perhaps resulting in mergers or foldings. Fortunately we are in a much better off-field state than we were a few years ago. Had this happened in say, 2016 when we were up to our ears in debt, we wouldn't have come through it. Maybe now is the time to merge with North. There is an entire other possibility, which is that Eddie and Bloody Jeff get together with the interstate presidents and a super-league of say nine teams is formed, whereby each play each other twice and then the finals start. It happened with the NRL and there is no real reason why it couldn't happen with the AFL. If the GF were played in different venues like the superbowl, it would make it more attractive for the interstate teams and get rid of the reliance on the MCG, which would not be available due to its contracts with the AFL. If it looks like half a dozen clubs are going to prop up the other twelve, I think this is a real possibility. The mere threat of it will make the AFL sit up and consider tough options that would otherwise be unthinkable. The XFL in the USA is proving a success from a TV point of view. It came from nowhere. The players are not contracted to the NFL teams but they were putting on a good show before this thing closed them down. Someone thought outside the box.

Author:	The Normal One [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:	How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Cazzesman wrote: Rexy wrote: ShaneO will still be holding the magnet board After a nuclear war and/or pandemic there are always the ultimate survivors..........ShaneO is certainly one of them. One of life's gentlemen. Regards Cazzesman And Barker

Author:	robertbb [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
moshe25 wrote: I wonder if they keep drawing membership dues from the credit card. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Indeed they are.

Author:	robertbb [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
I reckon they should fold the league as it is and re-hash it like this: Vic Clubs: Northern Blues Southern Saints Eastern Hawks Western Bulldogs Melbourne Demons (Conveniently this does away with Essendon**, Richmond and Collingwood). Then we have two teams in each of SA, WA, NSW and QLD. One team in NT. One team in Tassie. 15 teams. Old final 6 format. Build a museum of the old clubs, uniforms, etc. etc....

Author:	kezza [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
moshe25 wrote: I wonder if they keep drawing membership dues from the credit card. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk I was wondering that too when my account was debited last week. I won't be wanting anything back from the club but with so many job losses now you cannot blame anyone wanting a refund or the payments to stop. Really tough times ahead for so many of us, makes us realize that footy is only a game. Although one that we are going to miss for now. I hope everyone stays safe and healthy during some tough months ahead.

Author:	Teddy Hopkins [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How will Carlton emerge from the shutdown?
Blue Sombrero wrote: We will come out of it at the other end because we have the supporter base to do it and the history to back us up . The only way to cut senior lists and play a season of footy is for each team to have a team in the second tier league. On top of that, they have a feeder U18 club, ours being the Northern Nights, for example. It's a variation of the firsts, seconds and U19s. Teams get dibs on their U18 club which substitutes for their academy. Games involving a Vic club which traditionally attract crowds less than 20k get played at PP, which is already being developed for the AFLW and has a great surface. The facilities need an upgrade but the need for a boutique oval to cut costs of games that run at a loss is paramount. The premise for raising GCS, the population growth of the region has not turned into crowd numbers. Move them to Tassie lock, stock and playing list and watch the Tassie crowds get behind them. Kick Hawthorn out of Tassie to make it a one team state. The big issue will be the first year back, next year. I doubt all clubs will get through this, perhaps resulting in mergers or foldings. Fortunately we are in a much better off-field state than we were a few years ago. Had this happened in say, 2016 when we were up to our ears in debt, we wouldn't have come through it. Maybe now is the time to merge with North. There is an entire other possibility, which is that Eddie and Bloody Jeff get together with the interstate presidents and a super-league of say nine teams is formed, whereby each play each other twice and then the finals start. It happened with the NRL and there is no real reason why it couldn't happen with the AFL. If the GF were played in different venues like the superbowl, it would make it more attractive for the interstate teams and get rid of the reliance on the MCG, which would not be available due to its contracts with the AFL. If it looks like half a dozen clubs are going to prop up the other twelve, I think this is a real possibility. The mere threat of it will make the AFL sit up and consider tough options that would otherwise be unthinkable. The XFL in the USA is proving a success from a TV point of view. It came from nowhere. The players are not contracted to the NFL teams but they were putting on a good show before this thing closed them down. Someone thought outside the box. Where's Kerry Packer when you need him?