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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:46 pm 
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I agree.

I like the spin. It makes sense for me.
Don't want it, but it makes sense to me.

Unless I hear it from SOS or Liddle or a Board member, don't believe the Ellis, Betts, DeLuca business had anything to do with the decision to resign now.
The club were honest they were not going to renew SOS' contract beyond 2020, and SOS feels he's done his job.

SOS wanted to end his wonderful tenure by getting us an extra first rounder, making it 2, and Martin, and Newnes for free. :clap:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:52 pm 
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/silvagni-s-unnecessary-departure-a-bad-look-for-blues-20191204-p53gy9.html

This is a pretty balanced piece and sums it up for me, especially the last sentence:

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The Blues will be neither destination club, nor reach their desired destination, until club unity becomes more than words.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:01 pm 
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About @#$%&! time they ended this shit.


Good luck SOS, and thank you :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:02 pm 
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fjanyc wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/silvagni-s-unnecessary-departure-a-bad-look-for-blues-20191204-p53gy9.html

This is a pretty balanced piece and sums it up for me, especially the last sentence:

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The Blues will be neither destination club, nor reach their desired destination, until club unity becomes more than words.


Really good article till I read that line. Carlton is and will be moreso a Destination Club let alone Premiership Team.

Easy for Niall to say what he said, as it was for me to say what I just said.

Go Blues. Next Chapter.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:09 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:11 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Jack's replying to tweets about it all now. Not smart.


Doesn’t matter. Either way the kid will be at a new club soon enough. Totally flowering disgusting.


That's a BS statement Surrey.

He is not going anywhere as far as anyone knows.


Stay tuned mate and don’t think for one moment that I’m happy.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:51 pm 
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Only a few months ago the media were mocking sos for only getting gws sloppy seconds


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:18 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Jack's replying to tweets about it all now. Not smart.


Doesn’t matter. Either way the kid will be at a new club soon enough. Totally flowering disgusting.


That's a BS statement Surrey.

He is not going anywhere as far as anyone knows.


Why would he want to stay at a club where his father was mistreated?

I think this circus is typical Carlton. If any other administrator had a son on the list no one would say a word in fact no one would care.

Liddle making the tough decision...oh yeah really.. you big tough guy you. Tough decision need to be made if KPIs have not been met.. did SOS reach them or are you a Gale plant.

Now get out of my footy club.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Jack's replying to tweets about it all now. Not smart.


Doesn’t matter. Either way the kid will be at a new club soon enough. Totally flowering disgusting.



So it’s going to be a complete Soviet purge cause someone didn’t like their power being questioned?

Principles & guts. That is what every footy club needs and that’s what Silvagni Jnr demonstrated. Everyone makes “mistakes”. You can really poison the well if one goes down this route.

Is our dutiful CEO going to purge the name Silvagni off the record books too? Sounds like it could be heading down the scorched earth route if what you say is correct.

If we are going to have a scorched earth policy with nothing left behind I want to know whose idea it was to try and recruit Ellis. I have read two articles that say CEO behind it.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:26 pm 
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Love how everyone is making this Silvagni v Liddle.
The board obviously agreed (eventually) with this course of action.
They know more than random people on a forum.

I'm happy to back informed judgement on this occasion.

As far as Jack leaving? I'd be disappointed because he's improved significantly but he won't be in high demand.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:27 pm 
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Oh and I think it's a positive that Liddle isn't a Carlton person!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:44 am 
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In an ordinary set up, the party line re conflict of interest would be absolute bulldust. But in this case, it alludes to the fact that the list manager was allowed to build himself a mutated department where he could make decisions on his Pat Malone - often in the face of, possibly in spite of, solid evidence contrary to his opinion.

Perhaps the more toxic conflict of interest lies with our reclusive president. If SOS wasn’t his kingmaker, he might’ve nipped this rot in the bud years ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:27 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
fjanyc wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/silvagni-s-unnecessary-departure-a-bad-look-for-blues-20191204-p53gy9.html

This is a pretty balanced piece and sums it up for me, especially the last sentence:

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The Blues will be neither destination club, nor reach their desired destination, until club unity becomes more than words.


Really good article till I read that line. Carlton is and will be moreso a Destination Club let alone Premiership Team.

Easy for Niall to say what he said, as it was for me to say what I just said.

Go Blues. Next Chapter.


It’s a crap article, beginning with the headline.

Try and tell me every other club doesn’t have internal debate re its list.

The hysteria and irrational howling from Carlton supporters is the only troubling thing about it for me.

Liddle and the board had the guts to make a logical decision going forward and I support it.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:47 am 
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The reason they gave being the 2 sons was just plain dumb.
It puts the 2 lads in a awkward no win position as they will always be regarded as being on the list because of their dad.
Seriously is there a sporting club in the country where a person of influence doesn't have a family member or siblings playing for that club.

No winners here

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:03 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
The reason they gave being the 2 sons was just plain dumb.
It puts the 2 lads in a awkward no win position as they will always be regarded as being on the list because of their dad.
Seriously is there a sporting club in the country where a person of influence doesn't have a family member or siblings playing for that club.

No winners here

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It always causes friction and instability. Can’t have that at the elite level.

The selfish leaks to The Age from the SOS camp shows an ego problem and just adds weight to the correctness of the decision to not offer another contract.
If Mathieson doesn’t like it he can step down and take his filthy lucre with him. I’d be the first to upgrade my membership.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:11 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
Jack's replying to tweets about it all now. Not smart.


Doesn’t matter. Either way the kid will be at a new club soon enough. Totally flowering disgusting.


That's a BS statement Surrey.

He is not going anywhere as far as anyone knows.


Stay tuned mate and don’t think for one moment that I’m happy.



If true, that substantiates the clubs view that there is a conflict that is difficult to manage. SOS would have been well paid for his efforts. The club has simply chosen not to renew his contract. Just like SOS has ended plenty of careers over the past decade. It's not like he was marched out the door. In an elite sporting competition, surely SOS would be the first to understand the ruthless approach required. He has been as ruthless as anyone. Ask Zach Tuohy.

FWIW, SOS apparently requested it not become public until after the trade period. We've had players leave the club after being delisted and their families found out through medias releases within 10 minutes of the sacking. IMHO, SOS has rightly been afforded far more respect than a lot of previous administrators and players have been.
It's time to move on and if Jack chooses not be part of it, so be it. See you later Jack.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:36 am 
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Oh and I think it's a positive that Liddle isn't a Carlton person!

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Everyone forgets our recruitment record , before sos came !!
Hawks and cats successful for so long cause they kept Wright and Wells !!

As for conflict of interest , please !! Which afl person from the ceo of the afl to everyone club who doesn’t have a conflict of interest, it is a jobs for the boys network !!

Biggest mistake letting him sos go and this day will be remembered for Carlton again having no balls , from
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:53 am 
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ITS the second time SOS has left the club in acrimonious circumstances......he has form.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:58 am 
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kingkerna wrote:
Oh and I think it's a positive that Liddle isn't a Carlton person!


That's fine, but it'd sure be nice to have an ideas person.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:08 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
United clubs become successful, fragmented clubs keep rebuilding.....


More correctly "Winning fixes everything"


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