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List Management 2020
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Author:  ColourMan [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Rexy wrote:
SOS has one failing - and it's a substantial failing.

He couldn't land a big-bodied established mid to help Crippa.

Kennedy is a bust
Missed on Shiel
Missed on Coniglio



How about mids of any description to help Crippa?
Author:  ColourMan [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
AGRO wrote:
SOS was fine with the spine but missed on the midfield


Maybe four players in five years....
Author:  Blue Sombrero [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Rexy wrote:
SOS has one failing - and it's a substantial failing.

He couldn't land a big-bodied established mid to help Crippa.

Kennedy is a bust at 22 and 40 injury-interrupted games.
Missed on Shiel
Missed on Coniglio because the AFL leadership got involved.


EFA
Author:  CK95 [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Our young players have had a terrible run with injuries the last 2 years...& now season 2020 is another season they won't get gametime. :sad:
Author:  billc3 [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  List Management 2020
Looking for positives...
Suits us more than older teams.

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Author:  jezzarules [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Kemp won't miss as many games
Author:  sticksaftersiren87 [ Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
SOS gave us no small forwards. That's his other failing
Author:  jamespul65 [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
get setterfield in the gym put 5 kilos into him extra running sessions he has 2 months
Author:  Blue Sombrero [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
SOS gave us no small forwards. That's his other failing

Gave us Betts as an interim.
Gave us Martin.
Would have got us Papley if the Swans were as inclined to look after player welfare as Geelong and StK.
Gave us Pickett, who was burning up the track and looked like he was going to rip the comp a new one until his injury.

But apart from those, you're right.
Author:  ColourMan [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Blue Sombrero wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
SOS gave us no small forwards. That's his other failing

Gave us Betts as an interim.
Gave us Martin.
Would have got us Papley if the Swans were as inclined to look after player welfare as Geelong and StK.
Gave us Pickett, who was burning up the track and looked like he was going to rip the comp a new one until his injury.

But apart from those, you're right.


SOS didn’t want Betts, and as SOS was on his way out, this time the coach got what he wanted...

So one small forward in 5 years of drafts, rookie drafts, free agents etc. etc. and even then it took 5 years!

As for Pickett, was never going to make it, he was lazy, not interested... GWS didn’t hide that about him, and couldn’t get rid of him fast enough... and SOS was lazy, and dumb enough to still oblige... and it cost us!

Count up how many small forwards played for the Swans on the weekend, or almost any other team.
Author:  Sidefx [ Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
On the plus side we might have a chance for the following before our next game (2021):
0 injury list or close to it.
Recruit a gun mid or two b+ mature mids.
Recruit Papley.
Author:  Blue Sombrero [ Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
ColourMan wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
SOS gave us no small forwards. That's his other failing

Gave us Betts as an interim.
Gave us Martin.
Would have got us Papley if the Swans were as inclined to look after player welfare as Geelong and StK.
Gave us Pickett, who was burning up the track and looked like he was going to rip the comp a new one until his injury.

But apart from those, you're right.


SOS didn’t want Betts, and as SOS was on his way out, this time the coach got what he wanted...

So one small forward in 5 years of drafts, rookie drafts, free agents etc. etc. and even then it took 5 years!

As for Pickett, was never going to make it, he was lazy, not interested... GWS didn’t hide that about him, and couldn’t get rid of him fast enough... and SOS was lazy, and dumb enough to still oblige... and it cost us!

Count up how many small forwards played for the Swans on the weekend, or almost any other team.

When you'rebuilding from th ground up, which was his charter, you don't start with small forwards. You start with the big blokes, who take time. They're only just starting to hit their straps.
I don't recall too many here screaming out for small forwards on here over the last five years, it's been mids and KPP.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
When w got SOS in, who were our small forwards? Dis we still ave Yarran and Garlett?
I can't remember but I do get a bit tired of blaming it all on SOS. Let's not forget we are't a destination club. That plays a big part in losing Shiel, Mitchell etc etc.
Author:  SurreyBlue [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Blue Sombrero wrote:
When you'rebuilding from th ground up, which was his charter, you don't start with small forwards. You start with the big blokes, who take time. They're only just starting to hit their straps.
I don't recall too many here screaming out for small forwards on here over the last five years, it's been mids and KPP.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
When w got SOS in, who were our small forwards? Dis we still ave Yarran and Garlett?
I can't remember but I do get a bit tired of blaming it all on SOS. Let's not forget we are't a destination club. That plays a big part in losing Shiel, Mitchell etc etc.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Author:  Blue Sombrero [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psFqG3Xt-L4
Listen to 'The Racehorse' from 11:40
This is Carlton after 20 years without a flag in 1966. It's similar to where we are now in terms of a drought and similar to where we are now in terms of the list all arriving together.
Author:  bondiblue [ Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Blue Sombrero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psFqG3Xt-L4
Listen to 'The Racehorse' from 11:40
This is Carlton after 20 years without a flag in 1966. It's similar to where we are now in terms of a drought and similar to where we are now in terms of the list all arriving together.


:thumbsup:

Great interview.

Uplifting.
Author:  cortez [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
I well remember the build up to the 1968 GF. I recall thinking, "21 years since we've won a flag. How long ago is that, that's longer than I've been alive". Now 25 years and counting (sigh). We hang in there and live in hope.
Author:  robertbb [ Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Brodie Kemp gets a free season to rehab and prepare for next pre-season.

That's a pretty big win. He'd have gone much higher if not for injury.

I'd be prepared to give up our Rnd1 pick for Papley next year.
Author:  Donstuie [ Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
robertbb wrote:
I'd be prepared to give up our Rnd1 pick for Papley next year.

Will that still depend on Dodoro?
Author:  rhino27 [ Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
If the season doesn't resume and they go on last year's finished positions, we have pick 3. Are we prepared to give up pick 3?
Author:  jezzarules [ Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: List Management 2020
Would future picks traded count in such a draft or be applied to the next one?
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