For Papley and change? @#$%&! yeah.

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With the change (and possibly a 2nd rounder) going to a good upcoming mature mid, plus Wines.

Lists likely to be down to 35 next year?

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Just throwing it out there.

and or salaries reduced.

All depends how quick we bounce back as a nation, and if tv rights remain lucrative.

I know the entertainment business is doing well, as is News Ltd and Foxtel is now a staple.

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Think that's good for us, considering our worst 7 players on the list are as bad as anyone's, probably the worst of all teams.

A positive - unlike other clubs with an old list that will lose a year of their careers, we have a young list that has plenty of opportunity to make up for lost time.

Correct....


Go Blues

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I was going through the positives in my head

Docherty and Kemp have more time to get over knees. Curnow too
We weren’t about to win the flag this year anyway
If lists are reduced then we are best placed to trim without pain. If others are forced to trim it may shake loose some older players forced to retire we could use or some good youth cut too soon we could take.
Depending on how yet he AFL do draft picks, we should get a low one if it’s based on last years ladder. Good to have in a compromised draft with teams needing points and usually wanting to trade up.
We will likely now have our own VFL team.

I don’t miss getting my hopes up every week for a win to have it smashed in the first quarter with a drubbing.

If we had to cut lists to 35, I've gone with....


01 - Jack Silvagni - 2021
02 - Paddy Dow - 2022
03 - Marc Murphy - 2020
04 - Lochie O'Brien - 2021
05 - Samo Petrevski-Seton - 2021
06 - Kade Simpson - 2020
07 - Matthew Kennedy - 2020
08 - Matthew Kreuzer - 2020
09 - Patrick Cripps - 2021
10 - Harry McKay - 2021
11 - Mitch McGovern - 2023
12 - Tom De Koning - 2021
13 - Liam Stocker - 2022
14 - Liam Jones - 2022
15 - Sam Docherty - 2021
16 - Darcy Lang - 2020
17 - Brodie Kemp - 2021
18 - Sam Walsh - 2022
19 - Eddie Betts - 2020
20 - Lachie Plowman - 2020
21 - Jack Martin - 2024
22 - Caleb Marchbank - 2020
23 - Jacob Weitering - 2021
24 - Nic Newman -
25 - Zac Fisher - 2021
26 - Harrison Macreadie - 2020
27 - Marc Pittonet - 2021
28 - David Cuningham - 2022
29 - Cameron Polson - 2020
30 - Charlie Curnow - 2023
31 - Tom Williamson - 2020
32 - Jack Newnes - 2020
33 - Sam Ramsay - 2021
34 - Sam Philp - 2021
35 - Edward Curnow - 2020
36 - Josh Honey - 2020
37 - Ben Silvagni - 2020
38 - Finbar O'Dwyer - 2020
39 - Fraser Phillips - 2020
40 - Michael Gibbons (r) - 2020
41 - Levi Casboult - 2020
43 - Will Setterfield - 2022
44 - Matthew Owies (r) - 2020
45 - Hugh Goddard (r) - 2020
46 - Matthew Cottrell (r) - 2020
47. Callum Moore (r) - 2020

It's not too difficult or dramatic.

Maybe harsh on Simmo

Maybe Betts goes instead but doubt it.

Kreuzer?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

If it was up to me to reduce the list to 35 for 2021 I'd first cut the following (not sure of contract status):

Simpson
Kreuzer
Lang
Polson
Betts
O'Dwyer
Goddard
Moore

I'd like to give Macreadie one more chance to get his body right as I think he has talent.
The likes of Owies, Cottrell and B Silvagni have all shown something at VFL level so would rather give them a bit more time if possible. Fraser Phillips would be a bit stiff to be delisted as he hasn't been given an opportunity yet.

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Seems logical to me to lift the draft age if lists are cut to 35. Now is the opportune time to do it.

I wouldn't be getting rid of the only effective small forward on our list.

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Honest question. What do all the 19 year olds do for a year? What league do they play in? Is it national u/19. How do you fund it? Is it National? Do you got back to clubs having their own u/19s. If they’re back in TAC or whatever it is they might be detrimental to the 17 year olds.

I’d rather keep it at 18 and watch guys like Walsh and Rozee play and the others in a pro environment develop.

Yep. Poison stays.

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Just an opinion but I don't reckon the vast majority of 1st yr players are physically/mentally ready to play AFL seniors. I can't see why the TAC , Colts , etc can't be an U19 comp.

The kids can continue to study or work in the real world for 12 months while they mature a bit more.

I agree with this. It would only affect one group, that being this year's draft crop. After that, the playing field would be level again.
I also think they need to change the F/S rules back to no bidding. If your dad qualified, that's it. You're in.
And I think the academies need to be seriously looked at. At the moment it is a shambles.

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The Academies are great




for




Swans
Giants
Lions
Suns

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So if the list is trimmed to 35 how do you break it down?

12 mids
10 forwards
10 defenders
3 rucks

Our current list (positions according to the CFC website):

Mids:
Murphy
Cripps
Walsh
Martin
E. Curnow
Dow
Fisher
Setterfield
Newnes
O'Brien
Kemp
Philp
Ramsay
Honey
Cottrell
(15)

Forwards
C. Curnow
McKay
Betts
McGovern
J. Silvagni
Gibbons
Casboult
Kennedy
Cunninham
Phillips
Lang
Polson
O'Dwywer
Owies
(14)

Rucks
Kreuzer
De Koning
Pittonet
(3)

Defenders
Weitering
Jones
Docherty
SPS
Simpson
Plowman
Marchbank
Stocker
Newman
Williamson
B. Silvagni
Macreadie
Goddard
(13)

I've put probable outs in red, and possible retirements in green.

Need to consider the age and salary distribution too

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Just throwing it out there.

I'll admit when I read that the teams could (maybe, possibly, would) need to reduce in size I thought, yer, I can see that, that will save some money.

But looking at it like this ^

Unless they drop 2 players off the field, which I know has been discussed for a few years, I cant see who it could work. There just isnt enough cover for the injuries, and the kids who are developing/learning to be AFL players.

If you get injuries, where do we pull the reserves from?

I would hate so see the day where we need to play Cas as a midfielder due to injuries (not putting it past the big fella, he fills our holes nicely everywhere else - but you get the point)

We have some very strange times ahead, and I feel we need a few more pieces of a puzzle to connect what the AFL have in mind for the game moving forward.