Might be hard winning games with 10 behinds for every goal scored, but the 10:1 contested possession advantage will help.

once again everyone(media) saying that p7 for saad ,actually already ess planning p7 .Watching Fc last night Eddie mentioned that kid philip who might be available with our pick how is ready to go for round 1 next year. So i thought 18 yr old v 27 yr old i would take that kid will philip with p7 and work out another deal for saad .

Dodoro can drag he's heals all he likes Saad's coming to us and we aren't giving up pick 7.

Its Jack Martin all over again.

hope you are correct we need to offer something reasonable that the media will buy and not Dodo and off to draft we go (martin style) meanwhile club still looks good.

i don't think the media have anything to do with buying it we have to offer something Dodoro thinks is reasonable and that's it anything else is unimportant.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

CFC should offer what they believe is reasonable; despite whether Dodoro agrees, or otherwise. PSD serves as an accountability mechanism for those clubs who chose not to deal in good faith. In this instance, the draft route doesn’t seem an unreasonable risk to take. I doubt it’ll be as protracted as many expect.

Both posters are right imo.

Offer this year's 2nd round pick.
He is out of contract. Effendumb* allowed that to happen. Media will adjudicate its bad List Management.
Also, this offer shows a profit, and no loss on what Effendrug* paid for Saad: a future 2nd rnd pick.

If they don't like it, we say he's not worth Pick 7 ans we have offered the next pick closer to the mark.

Media spin:

Carlton are a Destination Club.
Stupidly, Effendope* have ridiculed Saad in public.
Culture issues and directional issues
Effendorks* try to force a player to play for them is the root of their problems.
The environment at Effencheats* is toxic, hence the player exodus.
President Paul Basher has publicly stated he wants "We want players who are committed".
Like GCS, they turned their nose at Carlton's offer, albeit lower than expected, and Saad enters the PSD.

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With Sheedy entering the fray with his old world baggage from the 70's displaying nothing but hate towards Carlton, whilst fully well knowing the new Carlton is a respectful club and doesn't warrant his vitriol, who knows, the new carlton may be swayed to show the same back to Effendrugs*, and bring back old wounds. The '99 Prelim goes a long way.

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I do not think this will happen. I expect pick 7 to be on the table early to get the trade moving. No doubt Dodo will want a player as well and that is where we stick to our guns.

We will see.

GCS thought the same last year for Martin.

I can see us splitting pick 7 to offer a late teen pick to Effendumb*, but I also see them force our hand to the PSD because we will not overpay (ie meet * unrealistic demands)

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

"Hello girls...dinner's on"

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Anyone offering pick 7 for Saad has NFI.
We do that, and I will have serious trade concerns with Austin and our club from now on.

Then Austin should be immediately sakced.

This kowtowing to Dodoro does my head in.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

I’m sorry but the time to stick to your guns is when pick 7 is asked for.

I do not understand your continual desire to trade 7 when that is NOT in the best interests of the Carlton Football Club.

Your only rationale appears to be that it will easily get the deal done.

That’s exactly what Dodoro wants, not what we want.

I wish some of you would want to buy my house when I sell it, I’d make a massive profit.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

I don’t think I’ve been this proud of you yet CC.

i would rather go to the draft with p7 and recruit a kid that suits our needs and have a 10 + year player then give that pick for a 27 year old

If only we hadn’t proved for 25 years that we aren’t good at this approach I would have agreed with this post up until we (again) appear to have blown the Dow and O Brien pics

Cos I post to have Surrey be proud of me LOL!

I know we’ve had our disagreements over our time on TC but I think it safe to say on this issue we are aligned(!)

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Whatever Essendon* publicly promote as their expectation, is irrelevant insofar as CFC is concerned; the same goes for KS’s return. We should make a reasonable offer, then move on.

Their bargaining strength is determined by their next best alternative outside of an agreed deal between both clubs. In this instance, pursuing Saad through one of the drafts appears as though it’d constitute a greater risk for Essendon* than for Blues.

Talk in media of pick 7 as a starting point, as though it’s a given, should be viewed with suspicion. While anchoring high can be beneficial, because it sets the tone regarding expectations, it has opposite effect when a party’s initial ask is so unreasonable as to amount to nonsense.

Let’s just hope our new LM team is up-to the task.

Familiar story, disgruntled, smeared and out of contract player as of 31st Oct has announced his preferred destination and price set .Will another club interfere ? doubt it.
EFC* do not have many options, like GCS will scream scandalous unprincipled behavior by CFC, it’s all show. Saad has already walked its over, our 2nd rounder and a sweetener or he’s a Bagger for zilch in pre PSD.

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