Sos in his first year focused on key positions and got McKay Weitering and Mc Kay
They all look good and big blokes take time

Thereafter he focused on the midfield
Early days but I’m not sold on any of the recruits except obviously Walsh
Interesting yesterday that the pick we gave to GWS to get Kennedy who has shown nothing as a midfielder becomes Sam Taylor who looks like being a quality key defender

The culmination of these sort of trades can be significant in the negative in the long run

In SOS s 4 th draft he lost the plot
The Mc Govern trade still mystifies me
Trade potentially 3 quality players when he have had our worst season on record for a guy who doesn’t
fit our needs has done little in his career and to top it off has to go off to the fat farm
McAdam is the sort of player we are crying out for
A small forward who is quick
By the way he had a decent final series in the SANFL
and with Betts obviously going will probably play AFL next year

Setterfield like Kennedy was brought to the club as an inside mid and like Kennedy cost us a bit in picks
Like Kennedy he has done nothing as an inside mid
He played mainly on a wing and as mister fixit in attack and defence

Our future midfield is a concern after Cripps and Walsh
We lack leg speed
One of my biggest criticisms of Silvagnis recruiting has been the rejects he recruited to top up the list
He even admitted on footy classified that were not seen as future players just temporary
More emphasis should of been placed on getting some young late developers from WA SA and the VFL
Rather than Mullett Lobbe etc
Fasolo @#$%&! me dead
Lazy @#$%&! recruiting

And if you look at the restricted free agents on offer this year Cogs is the only star available
Clearly from under paying the list SOS had him earmarked a while ago and guess what
He is from GWS and it’s the old Carlton way
Pay them heaps more and they come

And he hasn’t so what does he do now with around pick 9 and 2 third rounders

You need to bat 8 and 9 deep in the midfield to be a top 4 team
The jury is out on the future midfield after Cripps and Walsh

‘79 he didn’t play in the 81 ...

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I'm so tired

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We need a good tagger to take over from Ed.

To beat the best teams we need to shut down their main playmaker.

your jury is out not mine

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

just saying Ed can't go forever

24 years old. Couldn't get a game at a club that was dropping players left, right and centre.
Played 16 SANFL games and was named in the best 6 players for his team once.
What was SOS thinking? Let's sack him now.

You whinge about Setterfield and say he's shown nothing Keogh. I tell you what, he's shown a lot more at AFL level than Shane McAdam has and he's 3 years younger.

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Injured a fair bit
Played alright in the finals
First year in the AFL system
Is quick small forward which is what we need
Isn’t fat
It depends on your point of BV

Thanks BV, I was wondering what happened to this hidden gem/gun that we 'traded away'... So much hype earlier in the year (last year)

Go Blues

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No. It's more about the facts, Keogh. They'll always exceed a "point of view".
If Shane McAdam goes on to become a high quality AFL player, good luck to him but he'll be running around next season in the SANFL as a 25 year old player with 1 game out of 16 named in his teams best players.
That's not a resume' that's going to keep SOS up at night. I agree we are desperate for a small crumbing forward but McAdam isn't the man IMHO.

I don't understand why you continually complain about what we don't have and continually whinge about what we do have.
You have Setterfield in your sights but the bloke is coming off an ACL. He still managed to be top 10 out of Rising star eligible players in the AFL for kicks, clearances, metres gained, tackles inside 50, disposals and inside 50's. You say we recruited him as an inside mid, well perhaps in 2020 or 2021 he'll move into that role. At the moment he needs to get a pre-season under his belt and build a bit of size.
At 21 years of age, he's still got plenty of time ahead of him. Much more than Shane McAdam.

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Setterfield cost us pick 43 and a future second rounder
He came to us as an inside mid but has shown nothing in that regard
Agree or disagree
McAdam was handed to us by the AFL for nothing
As posters have said
Don’t put the pencil through Setterfield yet
Same applies to McAdam

Oh by the way that second rounder will be somewhere in the early 20 S

Good points here
And Kennedy turns into Taylor who showed a little bit yesterday
Can’t see golden boy Plowman doing that in a Prelim

Agree on this as well
What are your thoughts those to the contrary

You can find small defenders and forwards once you have the core pieces in place. You need to set the foundations first. Keogh is tiresome and his arguments lack integrity because he continually fails to acknowledge the draft and trading success stories (of which there are plenty) and focuses only on negatives

A question to you Keogh. Which recruiter/list manager has assembled a better list in the past 4 years?

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As you say Keogh, it’s early days.

Re no. 43 - Give me a 2 game player that then undergoes a knee reco and tears it apart. How could it also be true that Setterfield is being developed and performed a role.

The previous GWS list manager ...

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As I said about Setterfield he was brought to the club as an inside mid and he clearly isn’t that type of player
Neither is Kennedy
You need to have at least 8 or 9 going through the midfield

I would say that in the last 4 years a number of clubs have recruited better than us
I’ll give you one
Richmond
What Clarke has done is find players with late picks and rookie listed players plus pre season picks such as Stack. Have a look at the list
Blue Vain question for you
Give me one player other than Gibbons who SOS has recruited from these areas that is any good
And let’s not forget
Gibbons was an after thought because Bugg yet another GWS player thought it was all too hard and gave it up
Every year the Herald Sun lists the premiership team and where they came from
It’s interesting because so many come from those rookie pre season late pick scenarios
Sos so far has failed to deliver in these areas
What he has delivered is a bunch of older bodied recycled spuds from other clubs particularly from GWS
To top up the list of which many are gone already
On top of this I would of personally picked Pickett over Deluca
Pickett has far more upside and would add to our midfield depth which is highly questionable
This inability to find players that arnt a top 30 pick has lead to a lack of depth

Just to get this right you are bagging SOS for not recruiting a 28yo who hasn't played a game in AFL instead picking a 23yo who is ranked top ten in AFL for tackles inside 50 which we so desperately needed?

And somehow every list manager in the AFL passed on Stack in the draft, but a team who finished on top of the ladder and nothing to lose took a chance on him and SOS is a dud?

And further there are absolute guns in the state leagues that we are missing that every team but us is recruiting for nothing?

So many of these in last years draft that you can't name one?

I get that you don't like SOS as list manager, but you are letting your emotions cloud your judgement.