Yes but it was the same issues in game 1 of his coaching as game 50.

That was March 31 this year in reference to our defensive structures.

Today's press release:

“This was highlighted, but not limited to, an overt, consistent focus on offence at a detriment to the defensive side of the game.

Why did it take a review to highlight what was flipping obvious right at the beginning of the season (and even last year) just to supporters who were watching with their eyes wide open?

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Orandum est ut sit mens sana in corpore sano. Fortem posce animum mortis terrore carentem, qui spatium vitae extremum inter munera ponat naturae, qui ferre queat quoscumque labores.

Robertbb?

Or is it...

ROSSbb

Reveal!

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Congratulations CK95

No one knows, and essentially we have no control over it and don’t know what goes on inside the club. We can surmise but we don’t actually know.

Ratts did have more runs on the board than Teague, though ratts tenure has risen in stock due to what’s happened since.

Be hard for Teagues stock to rise unless we go back to Bolts era winning ratios. Though if he goes to Richmond and they begin flying again next year I am sure that will help his cause.

I do think part of the issue is lack of experience throughout football department, so Teague was one of those.

Yes true - considering he had no football director and didn't have his own assistants is harsh. Had to promote Stanton and Power from development coaching ranks and sounded out Woosha as there was no Senior Assistant at the club. Sayers set him up to fail - thats the way it looks like to me.

Of all the ridiculous garbage coming out of the media, this one has to be up there:
Teague has been widely praised for the way he has handled the end to his tenure with the club’s football department review taking the legs out from under him before the end of the season.

He has handled it poorly. Thrown numerous hissy fits, then got his mouthpiece to publicly slag off our captain.

Seems like a decent guy generally and like most, I derive no real pleasure from seeing someone get sacked but to suggest he has handled the end of his tenure well is laughable.

Is Teague ok ??

Injuries give me a spell ...

Do you concede yet Teague is no longer coaching us ?? Or do you sayers is joking ??

He is a future 4 time premiership coach by your assessment , that we have just let go ...

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

Exactly and as sayers pointed out , Teague said he would rather discuss the findings of the Review post season and not 2 weeks ago when Sayers first got the final review and recommendations...

Tegaue wanted to do go out slagging off on everyone ,

Hope he does end up at the tigers ,

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

I have to agree. I have no ill will towards Teague but if the data collected during the review points to shortfalls in the senior coach’s performance, then he had to go unfortunately. Like Sayers said today, the easy option would have been to wait it out. But once the review findings had been absorbed the board would have been negligent in its duties if it didn’t act.

I know it’s hard for Teague, but it’s a well paid gig and a very hot seat. I thought his performance in the post match media conference on Saturday night was not particularly dignified and his manager hasn’t done him any favours this week either.

He’ll get a nice payout and I’m sure he’ll get an assistant coach gig somewhere next year. But, frankly, I doubt he’ll ever be offered another senior coaching job.

As an aside, if he does get an assistant’s job at Richmond or somewhere next year do we need to pay him out? If we still need to pay him out, does 100% of the payout still get counted in the soft cap?

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

The answer is of course what's worse for Carlton.
As opposed to Kennet/Clarkson, in which case the opposite answer holds true.

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Orandum est ut sit mens sana in corpore sano. Fortem posce animum mortis terrore carentem, qui spatium vitae extremum inter munera ponat naturae, qui ferre queat quoscumque labores.

Feel sorry for Teague but I think this is a good day for the CLUB and no negativity by the usual suspects or the vacuous media derogates from that

THE Board took action undertook an external review underperformance was established

The Board has sought to act on the recommendations and have taken tough decisions

The board has been

ONWARD AND UPWARD stop the handwringing this day is well overdue at our football club

Pretty sure we won the round 4 match against Gold Coast.
I was there.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

It's quite possible that the club is dysfunctional.

It's also quite possible that Teague can't coach

There's evidence to support both.

Sorry I'm feeling very non-binary at the moment

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Congratulations CK95

Andy Maher being absolutely hysterical about today playing the usual narrative -baa another media sheep with very superficial analysis

I reckon if he feels so strongly he should make a stand not to be the official club runner for Carlton AFLW team next summer

Bet you he doesn’t because he loves the adulation and grandstanding of having the position

True enough. The point, I think, remains though that close matches are pivotal.

Instead one can use -

Rd 11 vs Sydney - lost by 22 points (under 4 goals)

These matches decided by under 4 goals are the matches that either make or break a season.

The point remains that a coach in control of his season can see the match quickly and make alterations quickly that win you those close games.

The game vs Collingwood, I would have gotten Setterfield out of the wing as early as the 1st quarter, and tried Paddy Dow or someone else there. People go on about Plowman in that match, but when you are at the match live you see where the turnovers begin and some of the entries were so sudden and quick it wouldn't have mattered if you put SOS there the marks would have been taken.

So yeah matches like that...a coach needs to assess...where are my weaknesses? What can I do?
My other observation was that Marc Murphy was just coasting in that match - HFF. Could he have gone onto the wing? A coach paid $$$$hundreds of thousands needs to make decisions before momentum has swung.

So yeah early season matches - close ones....win them at least 70% of them no matter what.

Look at Barassi in 1967. He won something like 90% (10-2)of those close matches...some of them by under a goal. In 1968, he won 5, lost 2 of the games under 4 goals.
In 1970, record was 8 wins, 3 losses.

That's what defines your season.

Teague's record 2021 - of matches by 25 points or less
5 wins
8 losses

As always with these decisions, we won’t know if it was good or bad until at least this time next year, perhaps longer.

If we come out firing 5-0 next year, most people will consider the review a masterstroke or culture destroying if we are 0-5

I am tipping there is a very good chance he will for his first season, should he be appointed. We're going to have to sit tight & be patient with Lyon if he is the man. After year 1 though is when we should start balancing out & winning more than we lose.

I'm disappointed for Teague but would totally get on board with Lyon as coach, rate him highly.

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#DonTheStash

Yeah that's right - head coaching is all encompassing. I support the next coach as well make no mistake. Just hope the board doesn't mistreat the next coach - let them work and not be so disruptive.