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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:24 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Do you have an opinion on toilet paper becoming bathroom tissue
Of course midgets and dwarfs are not midgets and dwarfs anymore
There vertically challenged people

African-American is cumbersome to say
It’s also confusing because so many countries exist in this geographical area
And there are so many different coloured people
Egypt is in Africa but Egyptians are not black
More like a lighter shade of brown.
It’s all fairly confusing isn it

There are so many many different coloured people.
And that’s what they are. Coloured. I am coloured.I am not completely white. Very light brown particularly after living in WA. If you think about it there are very few white people around.
Therefore there actually a minority group
But you can’t say coloured anymore.

Anyway mate I am so glad you have embraced this new crazy world we live in.
I am so happy for you


Negroid? Is that OK?

I reckon the world has gone mad.

I love the way southern european's refer to themselves to 'wogs' and proud of it, and when called a 'wog', they are still proud of it. That shows character, mental strength and self confidence, self satisfied even ... snobbish. Good on them.

I think people are paranoid, self conscious and plainly unconfident in themself.

African Americans call themselves negroes and niggers...listen to their rap songs and tell me what they call their women and whether their women call themselves the same thing. Each to their own. The world has gone mad. and Weak

So pluck out the weak this week Teague

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:30 pm 
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Spare money in our soft cap should be spent on player development resources not this.

How many assistant coaches at the club do they have or need? It’s hard to argue that a mentor for an inexperienced coach isn’t warranted, or wouldn’t assist the players/team in the long run.



Must be needed.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:33 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
2 days ago sellers announces on 360 that Teague mother in law is in a bad way , and then 48 hours this worsfold appointment

Teague press conference on Saturday night after the game , showed he is mentally drained

Very weird things are happening , let’s watch this space


I'd be drained after a game of coaching AFL.

I get drained after an Afl game Ive watched tv with access to stats at my fingertips, posts etc

I get to have a beer etc to calm my nerves and still buggered.

Game day followed by the actual game takes alot out of everyone.

I Respect that

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:34 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
Might be time to call on “the Ian Stewart Exit Scenario”.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:36 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Not a fan.
I'm a great believer in mentors and for those bagging the idea of having one, listen to people like David Parkin. He's a big believer in it. In fact, most of the coaching accreditations require it and most senior coaches have one.
Unfortunately Worsfold wouldn't be my choice. He'll assist with personal development but strategically he's been poor for a long time. Too rigid and inflexible in his approach. That's why he's lost his last 2 coaching gigs. I'd rather a hard arse like Lyon. Someone who will challenge the status quo.

Anyway, it's a change of structure which is good but it's a missed opportunity IMHO.


Do you know Worsfold?

I don't think the appointment was to challenge the status quo.

Training wheels ... remember.

They do have a good relationship it seems. I'm sure there will be plenty of care taken because of that.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:38 pm 
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Didn’t Robert walls come in last year for a bit and wasn’t impressed with the Teague and the structure

And now worsfold ...

Blues just throwing away money ...


How?

Its an investment and it could add value. Usually does. How much? Its all about 1%ers.

I'm in favour of additional experience and another eye.

We are building for sustained success.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:39 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Anyhow,quarter way through the season and all of a sudden Teagur needs a mentor ? better late than never i suppose,but faaarking hell,we are a football club making it up on the run....................who is actually running the joint ? anyone ? mad hatters tea part for mine.



Did you think Teague was an experienced coach when he was hired?

If so, have a look at his coaching record. Never been a Head coach in AFL.
I know you know that Mickstar. Just sayin

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:42 pm 
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Bookie wrote:
I'd say he's good as gone, unless miracles happen.


I'd put money on that.

Results.

We all know where want to be come season's end.

Injuries are hindering us, and it may just swing our way in 4-8 weeks.

get another couple wins, and win 6 in a row....who knows

Momentum will decide in the end...maybe

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:42 pm 
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Teague is going to come under a stupid amount of pressure next month externally and rightly so. If no one at the club is challenging him and feels he needs it and selects Worsfold as they worked together before 0 what does it matter? It's Teagues decision he's the one facing the pressure not us. If it doesn't turn out for him - watch out. But still think he will take us to the finals. Regardless of what next month looks like.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:43 pm 
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There is enough evidence to suggest getting support around the coach is a good thing not a bad thing :smile:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:04 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Might be time to call on “the Ian Stewart Exit Scenario”.


:wink:



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I only wish we had someone like Alex Jesaulenko to parachute in.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:06 pm 
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I'm sure Teague won't be asking Worsfold how to handle the Press! :razz:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:52 pm 
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There is enough evidence to suggest getting support around the coach is a good thing not a bad thing :smile:


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Whose idea was it, the Club or Coach ? Doesn't matter either way. I see it as being proactive, and that's good thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:26 pm 
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Teague is going to come under a stupid amount of pressure next month externally and rightly so. If no one at the club is challenging him and feels he needs it and selects Worsfold as they worked together before 0 what does it matter? It's Teagues decision he's the one facing the pressure not us. If it doesn't turn out for him - watch out. But still think he will take us to the finals. Regardless of what next month looks like.


I don’t think Teague is the problem to be honest cause he is young coach as was hardwick( and he was about to get the chop)

But surely from development to assistants coaches have to be experienced from winning culture clubs

He has no support around him and this the exposure he has got

And at the end of the day win and losses fall on the coach and he doesn’t have the right tools around him and if he doesn’t put his foot down about this

He will fail , flow on effect the team fails and we continue being shit

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:12 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Teague is going to come under a stupid amount of pressure next month externally and rightly so. If no one at the club is challenging him and feels he needs it and selects Worsfold as they worked together before 0 what does it matter? It's Teagues decision he's the one facing the pressure not us. If it doesn't turn out for him - watch out. But still think he will take us to the finals. Regardless of what next month looks like.


I don’t think Teague is the problem to be honest cause he is young coach as was hardwick( and he was about to get the chop)

But surely from development to assistants coaches have to be experienced from winning culture clubs

He has no support around him and this the exposure he has got

And at the end of the day win and losses fall on the coach and he doesn’t have the right tools around him and if he doesn’t put his foot down about this

He will fail , flow on effect the team fails and we continue being shit


There is some truth in this imo. I think pre Teague the players could have been developed better and I dont believe we had enough ruthless leaders on field to set a good example.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:31 pm 
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Maybe Teague will take some time off to support his wife and family and worsfold will coach while he is away

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:36 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
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Maclure is a wannabe old fashioned, gritty, tough talking, self styled ... I don't get it TBH, but I love him for obvious reasons


Maclure (and a few posters on here) don't seem to realise that football is becoming more and more like just a job for players. Yes, they develop friendships with their teammates, and some lucky few end up playing for the club they supported as kids and as such they will play for their mates or for the jumper respectively.
Supporters, and ex-players like Maclure comes from an era where players had a day job, demand loyalty from players while also demanding the club be ruthless. If Murphy had jumped ship chasing success and/or $$$ then fans would be pissed off. Now fans are pissed off because he's being played in his twilight instead of "the kids". Of course he's going to want to play and "chase 300". Footballers a) want to play and b) get paid more when they play.

I have no idea where I was going with this.....


I’ve actually been thinking about this a fair bit recently.

How would I feel as an employee if I was the best performing and most highly qualified member of my team, but got overlooked for a promotion because a new guy, with inconsistent performance and obvious deficiencies in their skill set, was favoured?

That’s the situation currently when people suggest Murphy or Curnow should be dropped. It harms the culture of the whole organisation to not reward and recognise the employees who most deserve it. The ‘drop a big name’, ‘just play the kids’ rhetoric fails to recognise the damage decisions like that can have.


Also a lot of guys get better in peoples minds when they don’t see them play.

People think Cuningham should be in the side instead of Murph for example, doesn’t one think he’d have gotten a game by now if he was doing the right things on and off the field?[/quote

Cunningham should be in the side a head of Murphy. The big wigs at Carlton want Murphy to play 300

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:12 am 
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To take a positive (optimistic?) perspective on the Worsfold appointment, pretty much the only key difference to Melbourne this year Vs last year is Mark Williams joining.
True, he is joining more as a hands-on assistant and is teaching them skills.

And the major difference at Sydney, is the addition of Don Pyke who provides a more attacking mindset to Longmire's more defensive instincts.

I'm hoping Worsfold could have a similar impact at Carlton. The notion that he will float down for a couple of games worries me but who knows what is really going to happen away from the media...

Anyway, we'll know all we need to know within 6-8 weeks.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:41 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Teague is going to come under a stupid amount of pressure next month externally and rightly so. If no one at the club is challenging him and feels he needs it and selects Worsfold as they worked together before 0 what does it matter? It's Teagues decision he's the one facing the pressure not us. If it doesn't turn out for him - watch out. But still think he will take us to the finals. Regardless of what next month looks like.


I don’t think Teague is the problem to be honest cause he is young coach as was hardwick( and he was about to get the chop)

But surely from development to assistants coaches have to be experienced from winning culture clubs

He has no support around him and this the exposure he has got

And at the end of the day win and losses fall on the coach and he doesn’t have the right tools around him and if he doesn’t put his foot down about this

He will fail , flow on effect the team fails and we continue being shit



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Correct. Dale Amos at Geelong from 2009-2015. Premiership and plenty of finals appearances.
Luke Power, 3 premierships as a player, AFL academy coach for 3 years.
Cameron Bruce was an assistant to Clarkson for 3 premierships.
We're 2-3. Let's not jump off any bridges just yet.

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